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		<title>Tungtn: Created page with &quot;'''Note on strength''': The median starting strength of valkyries is typically 18, and therefore will be the baseline for the early game.  '''Note on Excalibur''': I'm putting...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Note on strength&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;: The median starting strength of valkyries is typically 18, and therefore will be the baseline for the early game.  &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Note on Excalibur&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;: I&amp;#039;m putting...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;'''Note on strength''': The median starting strength of valkyries is typically 18, and therefore will be the baseline for the early game.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Note on Excalibur''': I'm putting Excalibur in the early game section, because it can often be gained even before entering the mid game.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Note on Mjollnir''': When getting Mjollnir, a valkyrie is highly unlikely to have been training the hammer skill, therefore the mid game skill level for hammers is presumed to be basic and not expert, in contrast to other weapons.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Early game ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== +1 long sword ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* 18 str: +2&lt;br /&gt;
* basic long sword: +0&lt;br /&gt;
* small: 4 / '''7.5''' / 11&lt;br /&gt;
* large: 4 / '''9.5''' / 15&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== +0 dagger (melee) ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* 18 str: +2&lt;br /&gt;
* basic dagger: +0&lt;br /&gt;
* small: 3 / '''4.5''' / 6&lt;br /&gt;
* large: 3 / '''4''' / 5&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== +1 Excalibur ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* 18 str: +2&lt;br /&gt;
* basic long sword: +0&lt;br /&gt;
* small: 5 / '''13''' / 21&lt;br /&gt;
* large: 5 / '''15''' / 25&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Mid game ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== +0 daggers (thrown) ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* thrown: no str bonus&lt;br /&gt;
* expert dagger: +2 or +3 (DynaHack)&lt;br /&gt;
* multishot: x1 / x2 / x3&lt;br /&gt;
* NetHack&lt;br /&gt;
** small: 3 / '''9''' / 18&lt;br /&gt;
** large: 3 / '''8''' / 15&lt;br /&gt;
* DynaHack&lt;br /&gt;
** small: 4 / '''11''' / 21&lt;br /&gt;
** large: 4 / '''10''' / 18&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== +1 Excalibur ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* 18 str: +2&lt;br /&gt;
* expert long sword: +2 or +3 (DynaHack)&lt;br /&gt;
* subtotal of bounses: +4 or +5 (DynaHack)&lt;br /&gt;
* NetHack&lt;br /&gt;
** small: 7 / '''15''' / 23&lt;br /&gt;
** large: 7 / '''17''' / 27&lt;br /&gt;
* DynaHack&lt;br /&gt;
** small: 8 / '''16''' / 24&lt;br /&gt;
** large: 8 / '''18''' / 28&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== +0 Mjollnir ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* 18 str: +2&lt;br /&gt;
* basic hammer: +0&lt;br /&gt;
* resist&lt;br /&gt;
** small: 4 / '''5.5''' / 7&lt;br /&gt;
** large: 3 / '''4.5''' / 6&lt;br /&gt;
* non-resist&lt;br /&gt;
** small: 5 / '''18''' / 31&lt;br /&gt;
** large: 4 / '''17''' / 30&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== +0 Grayswandir ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* 18 str: +2&lt;br /&gt;
* basic saber: +0&lt;br /&gt;
* non-silver: 4 / '''11''' / 18&lt;br /&gt;
* silver: 5 / '''21.5''' / 38&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== two-weapon +1 Excalibur, +0 long sword ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* 18 str: +2&lt;br /&gt;
** applied twice for two-weapon&lt;br /&gt;
* skilled two-weapon, expert long sword: +0&lt;br /&gt;
* subtotal of bonuses: +4&lt;br /&gt;
* small: 8 / '''19.5''' / 31&lt;br /&gt;
* large: 8 / '''23.5''' / 39&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== two-weapon +0 Grayswandir, +1 long sword ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* 18 str: +2&lt;br /&gt;
** applied twice for two-weapon&lt;br /&gt;
* skilled two-weapon, basic saber: -1&lt;br /&gt;
* skilled two-weapon, expert long sword: +0&lt;br /&gt;
* subtotal of bonuses: +3&lt;br /&gt;
* non-silver&lt;br /&gt;
** small: 7 / '''17.5''' / 28&lt;br /&gt;
** large: 7 / '''19.5''' / 32&lt;br /&gt;
* silver&lt;br /&gt;
** small: 8 / '''28''' / 48&lt;br /&gt;
** large: 8 / '''30''' / 52&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Late game ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== +7 Excalibur ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* 18/** str: +6&lt;br /&gt;
* expert long sword: +2 or +3 (DynaHack)&lt;br /&gt;
* subtotal of bonuses: +8 or +9&lt;br /&gt;
* NetHack&lt;br /&gt;
** small: 17 / '''25''' / 33&lt;br /&gt;
** large: 17 / '''27''' / 37&lt;br /&gt;
* DynaHack&lt;br /&gt;
** small: 18 / '''26''' / 34&lt;br /&gt;
** large: 18 / '''28''' / 38&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== +7 Grayswandir ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* 18/** str: +6&lt;br /&gt;
* basic saber: +0&lt;br /&gt;
* non-silver: 22 / '''29''' / 36&lt;br /&gt;
* silver: 23 / '''39.5''' / 56&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== +7 Mjollnir ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* 18/** str: +6&lt;br /&gt;
* expert hammer: +2 or +3 (DynaHack)&lt;br /&gt;
* subtotal of bonuses: +8 or +9 (DynaHack)&lt;br /&gt;
* NetHack&lt;br /&gt;
** resist&lt;br /&gt;
*** small: 17 / '''18.5''' / 20&lt;br /&gt;
*** large: 16 / '''17.5''' / 19&lt;br /&gt;
** non-resist&lt;br /&gt;
*** small: 18 / '''31''' / 44&lt;br /&gt;
*** large: 17 / '''30''' / 43&lt;br /&gt;
* DynaHack&lt;br /&gt;
** resist&lt;br /&gt;
*** small: 18 / '''19.5''' / 21&lt;br /&gt;
*** large: 17 / '''18.5''' / 20&lt;br /&gt;
** non-resist&lt;br /&gt;
*** small: 19 / '''32''' / 45&lt;br /&gt;
*** large: 18 / '''31''' / 44&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== two-weapon +7 Excalibur, +7 long sword ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* 18/** str: +6&lt;br /&gt;
** applied twice for two-weapon&lt;br /&gt;
* skilled two-weapon, expert long sword: +0&lt;br /&gt;
* subtotal of bonuses: +12&lt;br /&gt;
* small: 29 / '''40.5''' / 52&lt;br /&gt;
* large: 29 / '''44.5''' / 60&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== two-weapon +7 Grayswandir, +7 silver saber ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* 18/** str: +6&lt;br /&gt;
** applied twice for two-weapon&lt;br /&gt;
* skilled two-weapon, basic saber: -1&lt;br /&gt;
* subtotal of bonuses: +10&lt;br /&gt;
* non-silver: 34 / '''44.5''' / 55&lt;br /&gt;
* silver: 36 / '''65.5''' / 95&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Late game damage breakdowns ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== +7 Excalibur ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
25/27:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* '''+7''' from enchantment&lt;br /&gt;
* '''+6''' from 18/** strength&lt;br /&gt;
* '''+10/12 avg''' from Excalibur base damage&lt;br /&gt;
* '''+2''' from expert long sword skill&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== +7 Grayswandir ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
39.5 silver, 29 non-silver:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* '''+14''' from enchantment&lt;br /&gt;
** +7 twice from Grayswandir&lt;br /&gt;
* '''+6''' from 18/** strength&lt;br /&gt;
* '''+10.5 avg''' from silver&lt;br /&gt;
* '''+9 avg''' from Grayswandir base damage&lt;br /&gt;
** d8 with double damage vs. all&lt;br /&gt;
* '''+0''' from basic saber skill&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== +7 Mjollnir ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
31/30 shock, 18.5/17.5 shock resist:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* '''+7''' from enchantment&lt;br /&gt;
* '''+6''' from 18/** strength&lt;br /&gt;
* '''+12.5 avg''' from Mjollnir shock damage&lt;br /&gt;
** +d24 shock damage&lt;br /&gt;
* '''+3.5/2.5 avg''' from Mjollnir base damage&lt;br /&gt;
** base type of Mjollnir is a war hammer&lt;br /&gt;
* '''+2''' from expert hammer skill&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== two-weapon +7 Excalibur, +7 long sword ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
40.5/44.5:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* '''+14''' from enchantment&lt;br /&gt;
* '''+12''' from 18/** strength&lt;br /&gt;
** +6 applies for both hits&lt;br /&gt;
* '''+10/12 avg''' from Excalibur base damage&lt;br /&gt;
* '''+4.5/6.5 avg''' from long sword base damage&lt;br /&gt;
* '''+0''' from skill&lt;br /&gt;
** +0 from skilled two-weapon and expert long sword applies to both weapons&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== two-weapon +7 Grayswandir, +7 silver saber ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
65.5 silver, 44.5 non-silver:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* '''+21''' from enchantment&lt;br /&gt;
** +7 twice from Grayswandir&lt;br /&gt;
** +7 from silver saber&lt;br /&gt;
* '''+12''' from 18/** strength&lt;br /&gt;
* '''+21 avg''' from silver&lt;br /&gt;
** +10.5 avg silver bonus damage for both hits&lt;br /&gt;
* '''+9 avg''' from Grayswandir base damage&lt;br /&gt;
** d8 with double damage vs. all&lt;br /&gt;
* '''+4.5 avg''' from silver saber base damage&lt;br /&gt;
* '''-2''' from skill&lt;br /&gt;
** -1 from skilled two-weapon and basic saber for both hits&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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