User:Umbire the Phantom/Weapon size - Revision history

Umbire the Phantom: snip link

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snip link

Umbire the Phantom: notes to self

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notes to self

Umbire the Phantom: similarly

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similarly

Umbire the Phantom: try sectioning for the moment

2024-10-22T16:45:44Z

try sectioning for the moment

Umbire the Phantom: /* Two-handed */ comment upcoming to avoid categorizing

2024-10-18T16:08:09Z

‎Two-handed: comment upcoming to avoid categorizing

Umbire the Phantom: misc. improvements

2024-10-18T16:06:29Z

misc. improvements

Umbire the Phantom: /* Strategy */ word choice

2024-10-18T14:45:53Z

‎Strategy: word choice

Umbire the Phantom: should be covered way earlier

2024-10-18T14:43:01Z

should be covered way earlier

Umbire the Phantom: /* List of two-handed weapons */ add polearms

2024-10-18T14:38:35Z

‎List of two-handed weapons: add polearms

Umbire the Phantom: lede

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lede

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	===dNetHack===		===dNetHack===
−	~~{{main\|Weapon size (dNetHack)}}~~
	In [[dNetHack]], [[notdNetHack]], and [[notnotdNetHack]], whether or not a weapon is one-handed or two-handed depends on its size relative to the size of its wielder - furthermore, [[upgrade kit]]s can be used to resize weapons and other items.		In [[dNetHack]], [[notdNetHack]], and [[notnotdNetHack]], whether or not a weapon is one-handed or two-handed depends on its size relative to the size of its wielder - furthermore, [[upgrade kit]]s can be used to resize weapons and other items.

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		+	{{for\|the articles where most of this information is already covered\|one-handed\|two-handed}}
		+	{{for\|a possible article to dump this info in after renovating it\|weapon}}
	In ''[[NetHack]]'', [[weapon]]s and many other items used by the [[hero]] and [[monster]]s require either one or both of their [[hands]] to be free in order to [[wield]] them, and each '''weapon size''' has different advantages and tradeoffs to them.		In ''[[NetHack]]'', [[weapon]]s and many other items used by the [[hero]] and [[monster]]s require either one or both of their [[hands]] to be free in order to [[wield]] them, and each '''weapon size''' has different advantages and tradeoffs to them.

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 ==One-handed==
-A '''one-handed''' weapon requires a free hand to wield: A hero wielding a weapon in one hand can use their other free hand to either wear a [[shield]] for additional defense, or to wield another non-artifact weapon simultaneously and perform [[two weapon combat]]. Monsters with a free hand can wield any one-handed weapon.
+A '''one-handed''' weapon requires a free hand to wield. A hero wielding a weapon in one hand can use their other free hand to either wear a [[shield]] for additional defense, or to wield another non-artifact weapon simultaneously and perform [[two weapon combat]].
 ==Two-handed==

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 A hero hitting a [[monster]] with a two-handed weapon has a {{frac|20}} chance of performing a [[shattering blow]] that destroys the monster's wielded weapon.
-A hero that has their hands welded to a cursed two-handed weapon cannot perform many actions, including [[loot]]ing or [[apply]]ing containers, casting [[spell]]s, and [[removing]] [[armor]], [[ring]]s or [[amulet]]s.
+A hero that has their hands welded to a cursed two-handed weapon cannot perform many actions, including [[loot]]ing or [[apply]]ing containers, casting [[spell]]s, and [[removing]] [[armor]], [[ring]]s or [[amulet]]s.<!--{{upcoming|NetHack 3.7.0|When you hit with a two-handed weapon other than a polearm, the damage bonus for strength is increased by 50%.}}-->
-<!--{{upcoming|NetHack 3.7.0|When you hit with a two-handed weapon other than a polearm, the damage bonus for strength is increased by 50%.}}-->
+===List of two-handed weapons===
 The weapons listed below are two-handed - all other weapons are one-handed. Note that while all [[polearm]]s are two-handed, they are designed for [[pound]]ing and thus not as useful when handled as melee weapons.

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 A hero that has their hands welded to a cursed two-handed weapon cannot perform many actions, including [[loot]]ing or [[apply]]ing containers, casting [[spell]]s, and [[removing]] [[armor]], [[ring]]s or [[amulet]]s.
-{{upcoming|NetHack 3.7.0|When you hit with a two-handed weapon other than a polearm, the damage bonus for strength is increased by 50%.}}
+<!--{{upcoming|NetHack 3.7.0|When you hit with a two-handed weapon other than a polearm, the damage bonus for strength is increased by 50%.}}-->
 ==List of two-handed weapons==

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 {{upcoming|NetHack 3.7.0|When you hit with a two-handed weapon other than a polearm, the damage bonus for strength is increased by 50%.}}
-===List of two-handed weapons===
+==List of two-handed weapons==
-The weapons listed below are two-handed:
+The weapons listed below are two-handed - all other weapons are one-handed. Note that while all [[polearm]]s are two-handed, they are designed for [[pound]]ing and thus not as useful when handled as melee weapons.
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 ===SLASH'EM===
-In [[SLASH'EM]], [[bow]]s, [[crossbow]]s, and some [[firearm]]s are two-handed. SLASH'EM also
+In [[SLASH'EM]], [[bow]]s and [[crossbow]]s are two-handed, and more two-handed weapons are added, including some [[firearm]]s.
 ===dNetHack===
-In [[dNetHack]], two-handed weapons get double the damage bonus from strength.
+{{main|Weapon size (dNetHack)}}
-==See also==
+Two-handed weapons get double the damage bonus from strength.<!--
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-[[Category:Item attributes]]
+[[Category:Item attributes]]-->

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 Two-handed weapons are generally more damaging on average than one-handed weapons, but having a wielded two-hander cursed is notoriously detrimental: the inability for the hero to use either hand if this happens makes it hard to get at [[curse removal]] items, since they cannot cast spells and their uncursing items will usually be safely in a [[bag]]. Spellcasting monsters that cast [[curse items]], including the [[Wizard of Yendor]], are often the most notorious culprits.
-[[Prayer]] to your [[god]] can uncurse a cursed two-handed weapon: your god treats having both hands welded to cursed weapons and/or shields as a major. You can also use the #[[tip]] [[extended command]] to empty your bag on the floor and get at your curse removal tools - it is best to prepare a bag of such items in advance for when prayer is inconvenient or unavailable (e.g. in [[Gehennom]]). Some players also drop {{of|potion|holy water}} on the ground in places that they easily [[branchport]] or [[level teleport]] to.
+[[Prayer]] to your [[god]] can uncurse a cursed two-handed weapon: your god treats having both hands welded to cursed weapons and/or shields as a major [[trouble]]. You can also use the #[[tip]] [[extended command]] to empty your bag on the floor and get at your curse removal tools - it is best to prepare a bag of such items in advance for when prayer is inconvenient or unavailable (e.g. in [[Gehennom]]). Some players also drop [[holy water]] on the ground in places that they can easily [[branchport]] or [[level teleport]] to.
 ==Variants==

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 | [[two-handed sword]] || two-handed sword || 50 zm || 150 || 22 || {{davg|1|12}} || {{davg|3|6}}
 |-
-| [[tsurugi]] || two-handed sword || 500 zm || 60 || N/A || {{davg|1|16}} || {{davg|1|8|2|6}}
+| [[tsurugi]] || two-handed sword || 500 zm || 60 || 0 || {{davg|1|16}} || {{davg|1|8|2|6}}
 |-
 | [[quarterstaff]] || quarterstaff || 5 zm || 40 || 11 || {{davg|1|6}} || {{davg|1|6}}
 |-
-| [[unicorn horn]] || unicorn horn || 100 zm || 20 || tool || {{davg|1|12}} || {{davg|1|12}}
+| [[unicorn horn]] || unicorn horn || 100 zm || 20 || 0 || {{davg|1|12}} || {{davg|1|12}}
 |}

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−	In ''[[NetHack]]'', [[weapon]]s and many other items used by the [[hero]] and [[monster]]s require either one or both of their [[hands]] to be free in order to [[wield]] them, and ~~have~~ different advantages and tradeoffs to ~~each weapon type~~.	+	In ''[[NetHack]]'', [[weapon]]s and many other items used by the [[hero]] and [[monster]]s require either one or both of their [[hands]] to be free in order to [[wield]] them, and each '''weapon size''' has different advantages and tradeoffs to them.

	==One-handed==		==One-handed==