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Umbire the Phantom: /* Luck */

2024-12-14T05:43:56Z

‎Luck

Umbire the Phantom: /* Luck */ paging ardub and Ion

2024-03-30T02:46:19Z

‎Luck: paging ardub and Ion

Ardub23: /* Luck */ Reply

2024-01-07T03:44:19Z

‎Luck: Reply

Ion frigate: my own two cents

2024-01-03T11:27:56Z

my own two cents

Umbire the Phantom: /* Luck /

2024-01-03T08:04:20Z

‎Luck: *

Umbire the Phantom: /* Luck */ new section

2024-01-03T08:03:53Z

‎Luck: new section

Ardub23: /* Mirror Brand */

2023-06-27T14:35:29Z

‎Mirror Brand

Umbire the Phantom: /* Mirror Brand */ new section

2023-06-27T07:48:43Z

‎Mirror Brand: new section

Pinkbeast: /* Why would someone expect to be able to axe a corpse? */ new section

2019-11-22T00:01:24Z

‎Why would someone expect to be able to axe a corpse?: new section

Ardub23: /* Unused attribute tags */

2019-09-05T19:33:47Z

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	:Circling back to this - making a formal discussion of it on [[NetHackWiki talk:Style guide#Capitalization\|the Style Guide talk page]] and wanted you and Ion to chime in. --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 02:46, 30 March 2024 (UTC)		:Circling back to this - making a formal discussion of it on [[NetHackWiki talk:Style guide#Capitalization\|the Style Guide talk page]] and wanted you and Ion to chime in. --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 02:46, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
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		+	[[NetHackWiki talk:Style guide#Capitalization of 'the' in artifact names\|Left one for ya.]] --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 05:43, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

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	:I'm guessing it comes from IRC; while it's ''usually'' possible to infer from context in a wiki article which type of luck is meant, that's a lot less true in a one-sentence IRC reply (e.g. if someone asks "Why is this door resisting twenty times in a row?" and gets the response "bad luck"). It certainly predates this wiki, though it's by no means universal in the old text spoilers. While I do agree that in-game messages should be reflected accurately on-wiki, I personally don't find it unhelpful or incorrect as a convention otherwise. -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] ([[User talk:Ion frigate\|talk]]) 11:27, 3 January 2024 (UTC)		:I'm guessing it comes from IRC; while it's ''usually'' possible to infer from context in a wiki article which type of luck is meant, that's a lot less true in a one-sentence IRC reply (e.g. if someone asks "Why is this door resisting twenty times in a row?" and gets the response "bad luck"). It certainly predates this wiki, though it's by no means universal in the old text spoilers. While I do agree that in-game messages should be reflected accurately on-wiki, I personally don't find it unhelpful or incorrect as a convention otherwise. -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] ([[User talk:Ion frigate\|talk]]) 11:27, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
	::I've never seen a single sentence on the wiki that needed capitalization to distinguish the luck stat from general good fortune. Nobody has ever read "If your [[luck]] is below zero..." and wondered if that means anything other than a game statistic. Meanwhile, the "convention" of capitalizing it has led to errors in quoting game messages (as you've seen), and to ridiculous constructions like "unLucky" in place of more sensible terms like "low luck". The wiki follows the game's capitalization for everything else without issue, and this one arbitrary exception is creating problems and solving none. <span class="nowrap">— [[User:Ardub23\|Ardub23]] <small>([[User talk:Ardub23\|talk]])</small></span> 03:43, 7 January 2024 (UTC)		::I've never seen a single sentence on the wiki that needed capitalization to distinguish the luck stat from general good fortune. Nobody has ever read "If your [[luck]] is below zero..." and wondered if that means anything other than a game statistic. Meanwhile, the "convention" of capitalizing it has led to errors in quoting game messages (as you've seen), and to ridiculous constructions like "unLucky" in place of more sensible terms like "low luck". The wiki follows the game's capitalization for everything else without issue, and this one arbitrary exception is creating problems and solving none. <span class="nowrap">— [[User:Ardub23\|Ardub23]] <small>([[User talk:Ardub23\|talk]])</small></span> 03:43, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
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		+	:Circling back to this - making a formal discussion of it on [[NetHackWiki talk:Style guide#Capitalization\|the Style Guide talk page]] and wanted you and Ion to chime in. --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 02:46, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

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	"Why do we have this convention again? It's unhelpful AND incorrect" Presumably to differentiate between the in-game luck stat and "generic" luck. (I say "presumably" because that's how I've always understood it.) --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 08:04, 3 January 2024 (UTC)		"Why do we have this convention again? It's unhelpful AND incorrect" Presumably to differentiate between the in-game luck stat and "generic" luck. (I say "presumably" because that's how I've always understood it.) --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 08:04, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
	:I'm guessing it comes from IRC; while it's ''usually'' possible to infer from context in a wiki article which type of luck is meant, that's a lot less true in a one-sentence IRC reply (e.g. if someone asks "Why is this door resisting twenty times in a row?" and gets the response "bad luck"). It certainly predates this wiki, though it's by no means universal in the old text spoilers. While I do agree that in-game messages should be reflected accurately on-wiki, I personally don't find it unhelpful or incorrect as a convention otherwise. -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] ([[User talk:Ion frigate\|talk]]) 11:27, 3 January 2024 (UTC)		:I'm guessing it comes from IRC; while it's ''usually'' possible to infer from context in a wiki article which type of luck is meant, that's a lot less true in a one-sentence IRC reply (e.g. if someone asks "Why is this door resisting twenty times in a row?" and gets the response "bad luck"). It certainly predates this wiki, though it's by no means universal in the old text spoilers. While I do agree that in-game messages should be reflected accurately on-wiki, I personally don't find it unhelpful or incorrect as a convention otherwise. -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] ([[User talk:Ion frigate\|talk]]) 11:27, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
		+	::I've never seen a single sentence on the wiki that needed capitalization to distinguish the luck stat from general good fortune. Nobody has ever read "If your [[luck]] is below zero..." and wondered if that means anything other than a game statistic. Meanwhile, the "convention" of capitalizing it has led to errors in quoting game messages (as you've seen), and to ridiculous constructions like "unLucky" in place of more sensible terms like "low luck". The wiki follows the game's capitalization for everything else without issue, and this one arbitrary exception is creating problems and solving none. <span class="nowrap">— [[User:Ardub23\|Ardub23]] <small>([[User talk:Ardub23\|talk]])</small></span> 03:43, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

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	"Why do we have this convention again? It's unhelpful AND incorrect" Presumably to differentiate between the in-game luck stat and "generic" luck. (I say "presumably" because that's how I've always understood it.) --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 08:04, 3 January 2024 (UTC)		"Why do we have this convention again? It's unhelpful AND incorrect" Presumably to differentiate between the in-game luck stat and "generic" luck. (I say "presumably" because that's how I've always understood it.) --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 08:04, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
		+	:I'm guessing it comes from IRC; while it's ''usually'' possible to infer from context in a wiki article which type of luck is meant, that's a lot less true in a one-sentence IRC reply (e.g. if someone asks "Why is this door resisting twenty times in a row?" and gets the response "bad luck"). It certainly predates this wiki, though it's by no means universal in the old text spoilers. While I do agree that in-game messages should be reflected accurately on-wiki, I personally don't find it unhelpful or incorrect as a convention otherwise. -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] ([[User talk:Ion frigate\|talk]]) 11:27, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

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	== Luck ==		== Luck ==

−	"Why do we have this convention again? It's unhelpful AND incorrect" Presumably to differentiate between the in-game luck stat and "generic" luck. --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 08:03, 3 January 2024 (UTC)	+	"Why do we have this convention again? It's unhelpful AND incorrect" Presumably to differentiate between the in-game luck stat and "generic" luck. (I say "presumably" because that's how I've always understood it.) --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 08:04, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

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	You don't mind if I set up an artifact article for that like I have been with various other variant artifacts, I hope? --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 07:48, 27 June 2023 (UTC)		You don't mind if I set up an artifact article for that like I have been with various other variant artifacts, I hope? --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 07:48, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
	: By all means, go ahead! <span class="nowrap">— [[User:Ardub23\|Ardub23]] <small>([[User talk:Ardub23\|talk]])</small></span> 14:35, 27 June 2023 (UTC)		: By all means, go ahead! <span class="nowrap">— [[User:Ardub23\|Ardub23]] <small>([[User talk:Ardub23\|talk]])</small></span> 14:35, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
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		+	== Luck ==
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		+	"Why do we have this convention again? It's unhelpful AND incorrect" Presumably to differentiate between the in-game luck stat and "generic" luck. --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 08:03, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

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	You don't mind if I set up an artifact article for that like I have been with various other variant artifacts, I hope? --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 07:48, 27 June 2023 (UTC)		You don't mind if I set up an artifact article for that like I have been with various other variant artifacts, I hope? --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 07:48, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
		+	: By all means, go ahead! <span class="nowrap">— [[User:Ardub23\|Ardub23]] <small>([[User talk:Ardub23\|talk]])</small></span> 14:35, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

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	Probably because they have been playing old versions of Crawl, where butchering corpses in order to eat them required an edged weapon to be wielded; this suggests it as a way to deal with troll corpses. [[User:Pinkbeast\|Pinkbeast]] ([[User talk:Pinkbeast\|talk]]) 00:01, 22 November 2019 (UTC)		Probably because they have been playing old versions of Crawl, where butchering corpses in order to eat them required an edged weapon to be wielded; this suggests it as a way to deal with troll corpses. [[User:Pinkbeast\|Pinkbeast]] ([[User talk:Pinkbeast\|talk]]) 00:01, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
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		+	== Mirror Brand ==
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		+	You don't mind if I set up an artifact article for that like I have been with various other variant artifacts, I hope? --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 07:48, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

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	You're doing God's work --[[User:Luxidream\|Luxidream]] ([[User talk:Luxidream\|talk]]) 02:45, 5 September 2019 (UTC)		You're doing God's work --[[User:Luxidream\|Luxidream]] ([[User talk:Luxidream\|talk]]) 02:45, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
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		+	== Why would someone expect to be able to axe a corpse? ==
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		+	You ask this question in [https://nethackwiki.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Axe&type=revision&diff=129225&oldid=104953 this edit].
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		+	Probably because they have been playing old versions of Crawl, where butchering corpses in order to eat them required an edged weapon to be wielded; this suggests it as a way to deal with troll corpses. [[User:Pinkbeast\|Pinkbeast]] ([[User talk:Pinkbeast\|talk]]) 00:01, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

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	--[[User:Chris\|Chris]] ([[User talk:Chris\|talk]]) 01:54, 5 September 2019 (UTC)		--[[User:Chris\|Chris]] ([[User talk:Chris\|talk]]) 01:54, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
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		+	:Thanks for letting me know about this! — [[User:Ardub23\|Ardub23]] ([[User talk:Ardub23\|talk]]) 19:33, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

	You're doing God's work --[[User:Luxidream\|Luxidream]] ([[User talk:Luxidream\|talk]]) 02:45, 5 September 2019 (UTC)		You're doing God's work --[[User:Luxidream\|Luxidream]] ([[User talk:Luxidream\|talk]]) 02:45, 5 September 2019 (UTC)