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		<title>Umbire the Phantom: /* Updating articles to 5.0 */ additional pointers</title>
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		<updated>2026-05-18T03:35:11Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;‎&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Updating articles to 5.0: &lt;/span&gt; additional pointers&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 03:35, 18 May 2026&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l21&quot; &gt;Line 21:&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 21:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:To emphasize, you're not in danger of administrative action or anything of the sort: we're just informing you that the updating process should be done properly and how to do it. There's also [[Template:Recent]] to consider as well, alongside the [[style guide]] as a whole (which was just recently updated itself - you can imagine this was about as sudden for us as it was for the rest of the playerbase and editors alike). --[[User:Umbire the Phantom|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom|talk]]) 03:10, 18 May 2026 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:To emphasize, you're not in danger of administrative action or anything of the sort: we're just informing you that the updating process should be done properly and how to do it. There's also [[Template:Recent]] to consider as well, alongside the [[style guide]] as a whole (which was just recently updated itself - you can imagine this was about as sudden for us as it was for the rest of the playerbase and editors alike). --[[User:Umbire the Phantom|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom|talk]]) 03:10, 18 May 2026 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:As an example, take the recent work done on the [[soldier ant]] and [[killer bee]] articles, as well as the [[gelatinous cube]] article that I'm in the middle of updating similarly&amp;amp;mdash;it can be a fairly involved process, especially when the article in question isn't fully reflective of even the ''previous'' stable versions to say nothing of the recently-released one. --[[User:Umbire the Phantom|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom|talk]]) 03:35, 18 May 2026 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Umbire the Phantom</name></author>
		
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	<entry>
		<id>https://nethackwiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Ch3182&amp;diff=204013&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Umbire the Phantom: /* Updating articles to 5.0 */ follow-up</title>
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		<updated>2026-05-18T03:10:12Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;‎&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Updating articles to 5.0: &lt;/span&gt; follow-up&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;table class=&quot;diff diff-contentalign-left&quot; data-mw=&quot;interface&quot;&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 03:10, 18 May 2026&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l19&quot; &gt;Line 19:&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 19:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Editing the version number in {{tl|upcoming}} isn't a useful change to articles. Now that NetHack 5.0.0 is released, we need to update the wiki to contain information about the new version – but just editing {{tl|upcoming}} doesn't do that (in fact, it just causes confusion because 5.0.0 isn't an upcoming version). The correct way to fix the article is to rewrite the whole article (except the &amp;quot;History&amp;quot; section) to be based on the new version of the game (and update the &amp;quot;History&amp;quot; section to explain how the older versions were different). That can't be done just using the existing version of the page; it would need to be done by someone who knows the all the relevant mechanics of the new version so that the new page can be based on them (including ones that weren't previously noted on the page). See [[Template:Upcoming]] for information on the process for updating a page for a new version. [[User:Ais523|Ais523]] ([[User talk:Ais523|talk]]) 03:04, 18 May 2026 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Editing the version number in {{tl|upcoming}} isn't a useful change to articles. Now that NetHack 5.0.0 is released, we need to update the wiki to contain information about the new version – but just editing {{tl|upcoming}} doesn't do that (in fact, it just causes confusion because 5.0.0 isn't an upcoming version). The correct way to fix the article is to rewrite the whole article (except the &amp;quot;History&amp;quot; section) to be based on the new version of the game (and update the &amp;quot;History&amp;quot; section to explain how the older versions were different). That can't be done just using the existing version of the page; it would need to be done by someone who knows the all the relevant mechanics of the new version so that the new page can be based on them (including ones that weren't previously noted on the page). See [[Template:Upcoming]] for information on the process for updating a page for a new version. [[User:Ais523|Ais523]] ([[User talk:Ais523|talk]]) 03:04, 18 May 2026 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:To emphasize, you're not in danger of administrative action or anything of the sort: we're just informing you that the updating process should be done properly and how to do it. There's also [[Template:Recent]] to consider as well, alongside the [[style guide]] as a whole (which was just recently updated itself - you can imagine this was about as sudden for us as it was for the rest of the playerbase and editors alike). --[[User:Umbire the Phantom|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom|talk]]) 03:10, 18 May 2026 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Umbire the Phantom</name></author>
		
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	<entry>
		<id>https://nethackwiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Ch3182&amp;diff=204012&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Ais523: /* Updating articles to 5.0 */ new section</title>
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		<updated>2026-05-18T03:04:55Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;‎&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Updating articles to 5.0: &lt;/span&gt; new section&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 03:04, 18 May 2026&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l15&quot; &gt;Line 15:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;-- [[User:New user message|New user message]] ([[User talk:New user message|talk]]) 23:45, 14 May 2026 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;-- [[User:New user message|New user message]] ([[User talk:New user message|talk]]) 23:45, 14 May 2026 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;== Updating articles to 5.0 ==&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Editing the version number in {{tl|upcoming}} isn't a useful change to articles. Now that NetHack 5.0.0 is released, we need to update the wiki to contain information about the new version – but just editing {{tl|upcoming}} doesn't do that (in fact, it just causes confusion because 5.0.0 isn't an upcoming version). The correct way to fix the article is to rewrite the whole article (except the &amp;quot;History&amp;quot; section) to be based on the new version of the game (and update the &amp;quot;History&amp;quot; section to explain how the older versions were different). That can't be done just using the existing version of the page; it would need to be done by someone who knows the all the relevant mechanics of the new version so that the new page can be based on them (including ones that weren't previously noted on the page). See [[Template:Upcoming]] for information on the process for updating a page for a new version. [[User:Ais523|Ais523]] ([[User talk:Ais523|talk]]) 03:04, 18 May 2026 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Ais523</name></author>
		
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	<entry>
		<id>https://nethackwiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Ch3182&amp;diff=203809&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>New user message: Welcoming new user</title>
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		<updated>2026-05-14T23:45:48Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Welcoming new user&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Welcome!==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Welcoming party.png|right|thumb|''Welcome!'']]&lt;br /&gt;
Hi, Ch3182! Welcome, and thanks for joining {{SITENAME}}!&lt;br /&gt;
*'''The [[NetHackWiki:How to help|How to help]]''' and '''[[NetHackWiki:Style guide|Style guide]]''' pages are excellent starting points.&lt;br /&gt;
*'''[[Special:RecentChanges]]''' is a great first stop, because you can see what other people are editing right this minute, and where you can help.&lt;br /&gt;
*'''Questions? Need help?'''  You can ask at the [[NetHackWiki:Community Portal|Community Portal]], the [[Forum:Watercooler|forum]], or on the [[Help:Talk page|discussion page]] associated with each article! Just remember to sign those posts with four tildes: &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;~~~~&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;. That will expand to create a signature.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You can put &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;{{NAOplayer|&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;''NAO player account''&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;}}&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; on [[User:Ch3182|your user page]] to link to your [[NAO]] player account. Capitalization matters.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We are really happy to have you here, and look forward to working with you!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''This is an automated greeting.''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
-- [[User:New user message|New user message]] ([[User talk:New user message|talk]]) 23:45, 14 May 2026 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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