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Wikid: Lament for old-style YDSM

2017-02-25T23:06:24Z

Lament for old-style YDSM

Chris at 17:46, 11 December 2016

2016-12-11T17:46:12Z

Wikid: YDSM nerfed

2016-12-10T01:59:23Z

YDSM nerfed

Wikid: Comment on effigy

2016-06-15T19:07:02Z

Comment on effigy

Chris at 17:16, 15 June 2016

2016-06-15T17:16:59Z

Wikid: Decontamination

2016-06-15T16:56:45Z

Decontamination

Chris at 12:45, 15 June 2016

2016-06-15T12:45:48Z

FIQ at 11:06, 15 June 2016

2016-06-15T11:06:24Z

Wikid: Effigy didn't conjure up weeping angel fight.

2016-06-15T09:55:14Z

Effigy didn't conjure up weeping angel fight.

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I had weeping angel contamination and I applied an effigy but no weeping angel appeared. I had wished for a blessed effigy but I didn't BUC test it before use. I had been crowned. Enlightenment pre- and post crowning did not say anything about contamination. I had worn a ring of sustain ability for about 10K moves. My hunch is that crowning removes weeping angel contamination but I can't be sure. Spoil me?
Thanks! [[User:Wikid|Wikid]] ([[User talk:Wikid|talk]]) 09:55, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

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	Yeah, I eliminated the bonus damage from DSM. The breath attack timeouts are low enough to start most fights with a breath attack, which is not nothing. However, the only one that's GOOD (ie, worth building around) is probably the black dragon's disintegration breath. [[User:Chris\|Chris]] ([[User talk:Chris\|talk]]) 17:46, 11 December 2016 (UTC)		Yeah, I eliminated the bonus damage from DSM. The breath attack timeouts are low enough to start most fights with a breath attack, which is not nothing. However, the only one that's GOOD (ie, worth building around) is probably the black dragon's disintegration breath. [[User:Chris\|Chris]] ([[User talk:Chris\|talk]]) 17:46, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
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		+	Man, I miss the old version of YDSM. Acid and stone resistance, and acid added to all attacks. Acidic multi shot arrows! Those were the days. Most creatures don't resist acid. Can it come back as an artefact? [[User:Wikid\|Wikid]] ([[User talk:Wikid\|talk]]) 23:06, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

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	YDSM appears to have been nerfed -- no acid added to attacks. Also, approx 100 turn timeout on DSM/DSS breath weapon makes it not really feasible. [[User:Wikid\|Wikid]] ([[User talk:Wikid\|talk]]) 01:59, 10 December 2016 (UTC)		YDSM appears to have been nerfed -- no acid added to attacks. Also, approx 100 turn timeout on DSM/DSS breath weapon makes it not really feasible. [[User:Wikid\|Wikid]] ([[User talk:Wikid\|talk]]) 01:59, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
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		+	Yeah, I eliminated the bonus damage from DSM. The breath attack timeouts are low enough to start most fights with a breath attack, which is not nothing. However, the only one that's GOOD (ie, worth building around) is probably the black dragon's disintegration breath. [[User:Chris\|Chris]] ([[User talk:Chris\|talk]]) 17:46, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

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	That's too bad in a way -- I liked the whole idea that only the effigy will fix it, and then you have to fight the angel again. Remove Curse is relatively easy to find otherwise. Mind you, if it hadn't been for the ring of sustain ability, I would probably be telling a different story. [[User:Wikid\|Wikid]] ([[User talk:Wikid\|talk]]) 19:06, 15 June 2016 (UTC)		That's too bad in a way -- I liked the whole idea that only the effigy will fix it, and then you have to fight the angel again. Remove Curse is relatively easy to find otherwise. Mind you, if it hadn't been for the ring of sustain ability, I would probably be telling a different story. [[User:Wikid\|Wikid]] ([[User talk:Wikid\|talk]]) 19:06, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
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		+	YDSM appears to have been nerfed -- no acid added to attacks. Also, approx 100 turn timeout on DSM/DSS breath weapon makes it not really feasible. [[User:Wikid\|Wikid]] ([[User talk:Wikid\|talk]]) 01:59, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

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	Ah; yeah, any source of remove curse will cure contamination, so that is probably what happened. Scrolls are actually better than effigies for this, because the scrolls don't generate new weeping angels to deal with. --[[User:Chris\|Chris]] ([[User talk:Chris\|talk]]) 17:16, 15 June 2016 (UTC)		Ah; yeah, any source of remove curse will cure contamination, so that is probably what happened. Scrolls are actually better than effigies for this, because the scrolls don't generate new weeping angels to deal with. --[[User:Chris\|Chris]] ([[User talk:Chris\|talk]]) 17:16, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
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		+	That's too bad in a way -- I liked the whole idea that only the effigy will fix it, and then you have to fight the angel again. Remove Curse is relatively easy to find otherwise. Mind you, if it hadn't been for the ring of sustain ability, I would probably be telling a different story. [[User:Wikid\|Wikid]] ([[User talk:Wikid\|talk]]) 19:06, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

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	Super -- thanks. My wisdom did drop by a few points earlier in the game, and each time it dropped I got a message about the image of the Weeping Angel in my mind. That's when I started wearing the ring of sustain ability. So I'm sure I was contaminated. But by the time I tried enlightenment (and before crowning) it seems to have gone. It looks like it timed out? Or was it a B?oRC that I used? [[User:Wikid\|Wikid]] ([[User talk:Wikid\|talk]]) 16:55, 15 June 2016 (UTC)		Super -- thanks. My wisdom did drop by a few points earlier in the game, and each time it dropped I got a message about the image of the Weeping Angel in my mind. That's when I started wearing the ring of sustain ability. So I'm sure I was contaminated. But by the time I tried enlightenment (and before crowning) it seems to have gone. It looks like it timed out? Or was it a B?oRC that I used? [[User:Wikid\|Wikid]] ([[User talk:Wikid\|talk]]) 16:55, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
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		+	Ah; yeah, any source of remove curse will cure contamination, so that is probably what happened. Scrolls are actually better than effigies for this, because the scrolls don't generate new weeping angels to deal with. --[[User:Chris\|Chris]] ([[User talk:Chris\|talk]]) 17:16, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

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	It sounds like you didn't actually contract weeping angel contamination. You can get hit by the WA's gaze attack a few times without being infected. If you do contract contamination, both enlightenment and self-examination (Ctrl-x) will report that you have the image of a weeping angel in your mind, with the exact text varying based on how close you are to dying. Effigies will always cure contamination, if you contracted it, but in the case of a sub-critical dose of angel gaze they do not zero out the counter. Of course, in the case of a sub-critical dose the counter will zero out on its own after a few rounds.		It sounds like you didn't actually contract weeping angel contamination. You can get hit by the WA's gaze attack a few times without being infected. If you do contract contamination, both enlightenment and self-examination (Ctrl-x) will report that you have the image of a weeping angel in your mind, with the exact text varying based on how close you are to dying. Effigies will always cure contamination, if you contracted it, but in the case of a sub-critical dose of angel gaze they do not zero out the counter. Of course, in the case of a sub-critical dose the counter will zero out on its own after a few rounds.
	--[[User:Chris\|Chris]] ([[User talk:Chris\|talk]]) 12:45, 15 June 2016 (UTC)		--[[User:Chris\|Chris]] ([[User talk:Chris\|talk]]) 12:45, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
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		+	Super -- thanks. My wisdom did drop by a few points earlier in the game, and each time it dropped I got a message about the image of the Weeping Angel in my mind. That's when I started wearing the ring of sustain ability. So I'm sure I was contaminated. But by the time I tried enlightenment (and before crowning) it seems to have gone. It looks like it timed out? Or was it a B?oRC that I used? [[User:Wikid\|Wikid]] ([[User talk:Wikid\|talk]]) 16:55, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

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	Thanks! [[User:Wikid\|Wikid]] ([[User talk:Wikid\|talk]]) 09:55, 15 June 2016 (UTC)		Thanks! [[User:Wikid\|Wikid]] ([[User talk:Wikid\|talk]]) 09:55, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
	An effigy only creates a weeping angel with sufficiently high contamination. --[[User:FIQ\|FIQ]] ([[User talk:FIQ\|talk]]) 11:06, 15 June 2016 (UTC)		An effigy only creates a weeping angel with sufficiently high contamination. --[[User:FIQ\|FIQ]] ([[User talk:FIQ\|talk]]) 11:06, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
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		+	It sounds like you didn't actually contract weeping angel contamination. You can get hit by the WA's gaze attack a few times without being infected. If you do contract contamination, both enlightenment and self-examination (Ctrl-x) will report that you have the image of a weeping angel in your mind, with the exact text varying based on how close you are to dying. Effigies will always cure contamination, if you contracted it, but in the case of a sub-critical dose of angel gaze they do not zero out the counter. Of course, in the case of a sub-critical dose the counter will zero out on its own after a few rounds.
		+	--[[User:Chris\|Chris]] ([[User talk:Chris\|talk]]) 12:45, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

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	I had weeping angel contamination and I applied an effigy but no weeping angel appeared. I had wished for a blessed effigy but I didn't BUC test it before use. I had been crowned. Enlightenment pre- and post crowning did not say anything about contamination. I had worn a ring of sustain ability for about 10K moves. My hunch is that crowning removes weeping angel contamination but I can't be sure. Spoil me?		I had weeping angel contamination and I applied an effigy but no weeping angel appeared. I had wished for a blessed effigy but I didn't BUC test it before use. I had been crowned. Enlightenment pre- and post crowning did not say anything about contamination. I had worn a ring of sustain ability for about 10K moves. My hunch is that crowning removes weeping angel contamination but I can't be sure. Spoil me?
	Thanks! [[User:Wikid\|Wikid]] ([[User talk:Wikid\|talk]]) 09:55, 15 June 2016 (UTC)		Thanks! [[User:Wikid\|Wikid]] ([[User talk:Wikid\|talk]]) 09:55, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
		+	An effigy only creates a weeping angel with sufficiently high contamination. --[[User:FIQ\|FIQ]] ([[User talk:FIQ\|talk]]) 11:06, 15 June 2016 (UTC)