User talk:EasterlyIrk - Revision history

EasterlyIrk at 23:15, 18 July 2020

2020-07-18T23:15:06Z

Donut at 22:51, 18 July 2020

2020-07-18T22:51:29Z

EasterlyIrk at 21:08, 24 July 2019

2019-07-24T21:08:48Z

Ardub23: /* Multiplication signs */

2019-07-24T20:54:03Z

‎Multiplication signs

EasterlyIrk at 22:45, 23 July 2019

2019-07-23T22:45:52Z

Ardub23: /* Multiplication signs */ new section

2019-07-23T22:38:49Z

‎Multiplication signs: new section

EasterlyIrk: Blanked the page

2016-08-30T16:38:21Z

Blanked the page

New user message: Welcoming new user

2016-05-24T03:54:19Z

Welcoming new user

New page

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	--donut		--donut
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		+	I don't think those are really useful anymore tbh. At least with all the spirits in one page, you can just ctrl-f for the ones you want. Those tables were just 4 of the 6 or so characteristics of each spirit - what's the advantage of having those over a comprehensive page?
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		+	--[[User:EasterlyIrk\|EasterlyIrk]] ([[User talk:EasterlyIrk\|talk]]) 23:15, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

	== Multiplication signs ==		== Multiplication signs ==

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		+	== Binder page ==
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		+	You have removed a bunch of super useful reference tables that are not on the new ability page.
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		+	That is, the table of
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		+	Spirit \| Requirement \| Taboo
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		+	The table of:
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		+	Passive \| Spirit
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		+	The table of:
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		+	Skill \| Spirit
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		+	Can your add these back in please.
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		+	--donut
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	== Multiplication signs ==		== Multiplication signs ==

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	::The other solution I thought of is to put them all into a great big table with sortable columns, which would make finding shared attributes even easier than Ctrl-F. The only problem I see with that is there may be too many different attributes people might want to sort by, meaning lots of columns. That could possibly be mitigated by having abbreviated column headers—a column labeled "W", for instance, for "wishable" (with a key above the table to explain the abbreviations). Then each artifact could just have ✓ or ✗ in that column.		::The other solution I thought of is to put them all into a great big table with sortable columns, which would make finding shared attributes even easier than Ctrl-F. The only problem I see with that is there may be too many different attributes people might want to sort by, meaning lots of columns. That could possibly be mitigated by having abbreviated column headers—a column labeled "W", for instance, for "wishable" (with a key above the table to explain the abbreviations). Then each artifact could just have ✓ or ✗ in that column.
	::What do you think? Any other ideas? — [[User:Ardub23\|Ardub23]] ([[User talk:Ardub23\|talk]]) 20:53, 24 July 2019 (UTC)		::What do you think? Any other ideas? — [[User:Ardub23\|Ardub23]] ([[User talk:Ardub23\|talk]]) 20:53, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
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		+	:::Honestly, I see no reason to change it from its current state. It's relatively easy to find anything you're looking for. The only things I think could use a change would be standardizing the order for all the statistics (i.e. the first line is "drow noble-favoring intelligent droven spear", the second is "+1d5 to-hit and +1d10 damage", then goes on to list each ability with a designated order), but that's going a lot of work considering there's around 72 invoke commands alone with at least that many flags. I believe NeroOneTrueKing was working on some sort of in-game menu for artifact (and item) stats though, so eventually there will be an actual official format.
		+	:::Is there any real issue with the list as-is? IMO, the only issues are that not every role has its own artifact section (which shouldn't happen though, since there are good reasons why it's in this ordeR), some artifacts aren't here (esp. my artifacts, the arc quest redesign and the death-spear of vhaerun), and that some attributes may be wrong (see my latest spidersilk change, it didn't even do sleep poison until I fixed the code). But in terms of formatting and everything I'm pretty sure it's okay?
		+	:::(side note - average damage numbers would be nice, but that's also something I'll mention to Nero, and his descriptions may be pull-able into here). --[[User:EasterlyIrk\|EasterlyIrk]] ([[User talk:EasterlyIrk\|talk]]) 21:08, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

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 In the edit summary of [https://nethackwiki.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=DNetHack_artifacts&diff=126324&oldid=126323 one of your recent edits] to [[dNetHack artifacts]], it states that "we're not doing that" in reference to using multiplication signs (×) rather than the letter x to indicate multiplication. Would you mind pointing me to the discussion where this was agreed on? It seems someone forgot to add it to the [[NHW:Style guide|style guide]]&mdash;the closest thing is "Consider consulting Wikipedia's Manual of Style", which [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Mathematics#Multiplication sign|prescribes the use of × over x or *]]. If NHW users have decided on a different convention, our style guide should be updated to reflect that. — [[User:Ardub23|Ardub23]] ([[User talk:Ardub23|talk]]) 22:38, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
-I axed that since I've been going over a lot of these artifacts recently (side note - there may be a couple more changes incoming regarding actual gameplay stuff, I'll try to stick to the style guide). In all honesty, it's mostly for ctrl-f reasons. Some of the artifacts it actually matters a lot whether they're 2x or not, and I like being able to find all of the 2x ones immediately.
+:I axed that since I've been going over a lot of these artifacts recently (side note - there may be a couple more changes incoming regarding actual gameplay stuff, I'll try to stick to the style guide). In all honesty, it's mostly for ctrl-f reasons. Some of the artifacts it actually matters a lot whether they're 2x or not, and I like being able to find all of the 2x ones immediately.
-I'd be happy to discuss this more, I'm "rikersan" on IRC or discord. Try #nethack-hardfought on freenode.
+:I'd be happy to discuss this more, I'm "rikersan" on IRC or discord. Try #nethack-hardfought on freenode.
---[[User:EasterlyIrk|EasterlyIrk]] ([[User talk:EasterlyIrk|talk]]) 22:45, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
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	In the edit summary of [https://nethackwiki.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=DNetHack_artifacts&diff=126324&oldid=126323 one of your recent edits] to [[dNetHack artifacts]], it states that "we're not doing that" in reference to using multiplication signs (×) rather than the letter x to indicate multiplication. Would you mind pointing me to the discussion where this was agreed on? It seems someone forgot to add it to the [[NHW:Style guide\|style guide]]—the closest thing is "Consider consulting Wikipedia's Manual of Style", which [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Mathematics#Multiplication sign\|prescribes the use of × over x or *]]. If NHW users have decided on a different convention, our style guide should be updated to reflect that. — [[User:Ardub23\|Ardub23]] ([[User talk:Ardub23\|talk]]) 22:38, 23 July 2019 (UTC)		In the edit summary of [https://nethackwiki.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=DNetHack_artifacts&diff=126324&oldid=126323 one of your recent edits] to [[dNetHack artifacts]], it states that "we're not doing that" in reference to using multiplication signs (×) rather than the letter x to indicate multiplication. Would you mind pointing me to the discussion where this was agreed on? It seems someone forgot to add it to the [[NHW:Style guide\|style guide]]—the closest thing is "Consider consulting Wikipedia's Manual of Style", which [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Mathematics#Multiplication sign\|prescribes the use of × over x or *]]. If NHW users have decided on a different convention, our style guide should be updated to reflect that. — [[User:Ardub23\|Ardub23]] ([[User talk:Ardub23\|talk]]) 22:38, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
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		+	I axed that since I've been going over a lot of these artifacts recently (side note - there may be a couple more changes incoming regarding actual gameplay stuff, I'll try to stick to the style guide). In all honesty, it's mostly for ctrl-f reasons. Some of the artifacts it actually matters a lot whether they're 2x or not, and I like being able to find all of the 2x ones immediately.
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		+	I'd be happy to discuss this more, I'm "rikersan" on IRC or discord. Try #nethack-hardfought on freenode.
		+	--[[User:EasterlyIrk\|EasterlyIrk]] ([[User talk:EasterlyIrk\|talk]]) 22:45, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

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	+	== Multiplication signs ==

	+	In the edit summary of [https://nethackwiki.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=DNetHack_artifacts&diff=126324&oldid=126323 one of your recent edits] to [[dNetHack artifacts]], it states that "we're not doing that" in reference to using multiplication signs (×) rather than the letter x to indicate multiplication. Would you mind pointing me to the discussion where this was agreed on? It seems someone forgot to add it to the [[NHW:Style guide\|style guide]]—the closest thing is "Consider consulting Wikipedia's Manual of Style", which [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Mathematics#Multiplication sign\|prescribes the use of × over x or *]]. If NHW users have decided on a different convention, our style guide should be updated to reflect that. — [[User:Ardub23\|Ardub23]] ([[User talk:Ardub23\|talk]]) 22:38, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

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