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Quantum Immortal: /* suggested changes */

2015-06-03T18:23:38Z

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	:::::::Sporkhack's algorithm is to roll a d100 die and check if the result is lower than the resistance percentage, which is calculated as (Monster Level * 1.5) - 3 if the monster level is below 10, and Monster Level * 2.0 otherwise. A Level 50 monster would always ignore Elbereth, in that case. As for adding it to the pokedex I'm not sure, I haven't really looked into its function all that much. --[[User:Soviet5lo\|Soviet5lo]] ([[User talk:Soviet5lo\|talk]]) 04:29, 9 May 2015 (UTC)		:::::::Sporkhack's algorithm is to roll a d100 die and check if the result is lower than the resistance percentage, which is calculated as (Monster Level * 1.5) - 3 if the monster level is below 10, and Monster Level * 2.0 otherwise. A Level 50 monster would always ignore Elbereth, in that case. As for adding it to the pokedex I'm not sure, I haven't really looked into its function all that much. --[[User:Soviet5lo\|Soviet5lo]] ([[User talk:Soviet5lo\|talk]]) 04:29, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

			Rehello :P
			I played for a while, and now i'm in the mid game(without cheating). I think elbereth could be nerfed. There is illness resistance that could deal with demogorgon. Vecna is basically a tougher lich (i didn't killed him yet). I had to fight an arch-Lich and he reduced my streaght from 8.07 to 8, then the unicorn horn said "you feel great" at 8.05. Thats normal? Because of all the new monsters, unicorns are rare, so it's an annoyance when the horns turn to dust. I have only one spare left. And because of all the new scrolls, enchant weapon is quite rare, i didn't bother enchanting it either. Maybe you should revert the turn to dust for unicorns.--[[User:Quantum Immortal\|Quantum Immortal]] ([[User talk:Quantum Immortal\|talk]]) 18:23, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

	== Wizard with "-uwizard -Z"? ==		== Wizard with "-uwizard -Z"? ==

Quantum Immortal: /* Wizard with "-uwizard -Z"? */

2015-05-30T20:26:23Z

Wizard with "-uwizard -Z"?

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	:It never worked. In all versions and variants of [[hack]] and [[NetHack]] since time immemorial, you have had to be a particular user in order to use [[wizard mode]] <span style="background:green;border-radius:15px 0 0 8px">[[user:Elronnd\|Elronnd]]</span><span style="background: orange;border-radius:0 8px 15px 0">[[user_talk:Elronnd\|(talk)]]</span> 16:51, 28 May 2015 (UTC)		:It never worked. In all versions and variants of [[hack]] and [[NetHack]] since time immemorial, you have had to be a particular user in order to use [[wizard mode]] <span style="background:green;border-radius:15px 0 0 8px">[[user:Elronnd\|Elronnd]]</span><span style="background: orange;border-radius:0 8px 15px 0">[[user_talk:Elronnd\|(talk)]]</span> 16:51, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
	::It's not to do with version or variant, but OS. The <tt>-uwizard</tt> check is specific to Windows. Most other platforms do a username check. (Besides, [[NetHack 4]] allows local players to play in wizard mode without further restrictions, so your statement about "all variants" isn't quite correct.) [[User:Ais523\|Ais523]] ([[User talk:Ais523\|talk]]) 07:09, 30 May 2015 (UTC)		::It's not to do with version or variant, but OS. The <tt>-uwizard</tt> check is specific to Windows. Most other platforms do a username check. (Besides, [[NetHack 4]] allows local players to play in wizard mode without further restrictions, so your statement about "all variants" isn't quite correct.) [[User:Ais523\|Ais523]] ([[User talk:Ais523\|talk]]) 07:09, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

			:::The equivalent command for the slashem package from the ubuntu repositories works. Maybe it's an ubuntu/Debian specific patch? I though upstream slashem supported it.--[[User:Quantum Immortal\|Quantum Immortal]] ([[User talk:Quantum Immortal\|talk]]) 20:26, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

	== A bit of a nitpick ==		== A bit of a nitpick ==

Ais523: /* Wizard with "-uwizard -Z"? */ explain

2015-05-30T07:09:42Z

Wizard with "-uwizard -Z"?: explain

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	Not very convenient.--[[User:Quantum Immortal\|Quantum Immortal]] ([[User talk:Quantum Immortal\|talk]]) 16:12, 28 May 2015 (UTC)		Not very convenient.--[[User:Quantum Immortal\|Quantum Immortal]] ([[User talk:Quantum Immortal\|talk]]) 16:12, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
	:It never worked. In all versions and variants of [[hack]] and [[NetHack]] since time immemorial, you have had to be a particular user in order to use [[wizard mode]] <span style="background:green;border-radius:15px 0 0 8px">[[user:Elronnd\|Elronnd]]</span><span style="background: orange;border-radius:0 8px 15px 0">[[user_talk:Elronnd\|(talk)]]</span> 16:51, 28 May 2015 (UTC)		:It never worked. In all versions and variants of [[hack]] and [[NetHack]] since time immemorial, you have had to be a particular user in order to use [[wizard mode]] <span style="background:green;border-radius:15px 0 0 8px">[[user:Elronnd\|Elronnd]]</span><span style="background: orange;border-radius:0 8px 15px 0">[[user_talk:Elronnd\|(talk)]]</span> 16:51, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
			::It's not to do with version or variant, but OS. The <tt>-uwizard</tt> check is specific to Windows. Most other platforms do a username check. (Besides, [[NetHack 4]] allows local players to play in wizard mode without further restrictions, so your statement about "all variants" isn't quite correct.) [[User:Ais523\|Ais523]] ([[User talk:Ais523\|talk]]) 07:09, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

	== A bit of a nitpick ==		== A bit of a nitpick ==

Kahran042: /* A bit of a nitpick */

2015-05-29T19:55:52Z

A bit of a nitpick

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	== A bit of a nitpick ==		== A bit of a nitpick ==
	~~From~~ the ~~source~~ of ~~SLASHTHEM~~, I noticed that the Bleeder quest artifact was changed to the Scalpel of the Bloodlettter. However, it's kind of important that the artifact be the Bloody Beauty, due to the text when you defeat the nemesis:		First of all, I want to say that I love the idea of this mod, especially making the new classes actually distinct from each other. However, I do have one problem with it. Specifically, I noticed that the Bleeder quest artifact was changed to the Scalpel of the Bloodlettter. However, it's kind of important that the artifact be the Bloody Beauty, due to the text when you defeat the nemesis:
	Ultimately, after a long and grueling fight, you have defeated the Bloody Beauties.		Ultimately, after a long and grueling fight, you have defeated the Bloody Beauties.
	Severely battered and bleeding heavily, you listen to what they have		Severely battered and bleeding heavily, you listen to what they have
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	In the form of the Bloody Beauty, we will accompany you wherever you go, and we hope		In the form of the Bloody Beauty, we will accompany you wherever you go, and we hope
	you'll put us to good use!"		you'll put us to good use!"
	So, you should probably either change the nemesis or change the artifact back to the Bloody Beauty. Just wanted to point that out. --[[User:Kahran042\|Kahran042]] ([[User talk:Kahran042\|talk]]) 19:54, 29 May 2015 (UTC)		So, you should probably either change the nemesis or change the artifact back to the Bloody Beauty. Just wanted to point that out. --[[User:Kahran042\|Kahran042]] ([[User talk:Kahran042\|talk]]) 19:55, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

Kahran042 at 19:54, 29 May 2015

2015-05-29T19:54:39Z

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	Not very convenient.--[[User:Quantum Immortal\|Quantum Immortal]] ([[User talk:Quantum Immortal\|talk]]) 16:12, 28 May 2015 (UTC)		Not very convenient.--[[User:Quantum Immortal\|Quantum Immortal]] ([[User talk:Quantum Immortal\|talk]]) 16:12, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
	:It never worked. In all versions and variants of [[hack]] and [[NetHack]] since time immemorial, you have had to be a particular user in order to use [[wizard mode]] <span style="background:green;border-radius:15px 0 0 8px">[[user:Elronnd\|Elronnd]]</span><span style="background: orange;border-radius:0 8px 15px 0">[[user_talk:Elronnd\|(talk)]]</span> 16:51, 28 May 2015 (UTC)		:It never worked. In all versions and variants of [[hack]] and [[NetHack]] since time immemorial, you have had to be a particular user in order to use [[wizard mode]] <span style="background:green;border-radius:15px 0 0 8px">[[user:Elronnd\|Elronnd]]</span><span style="background: orange;border-radius:0 8px 15px 0">[[user_talk:Elronnd\|(talk)]]</span> 16:51, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

			== A bit of a nitpick ==
			From the source of SLASHTHEM, I noticed that the Bleeder quest artifact was changed to the Scalpel of the Bloodlettter. However, it's kind of important that the artifact be the Bloody Beauty, due to the text when you defeat the nemesis:
			Ultimately, after a long and grueling fight, you have defeated the Bloody Beauties.
			Severely battered and bleeding heavily, you listen to what they have
			to say:
			"Congratulations, <playername>! At last someone managed to defeat us. And as you
			know, defeat means friendship. We, or one shall rather say, the Bloody Beauty,
			is yours for the taking. Thanks a lot for this wonderful fight!
			In the form of the Bloody Beauty, we will accompany you wherever you go, and we hope
			you'll put us to good use!"
			So, you should probably either change the nemesis or change the artifact back to the Bloody Beauty. Just wanted to point that out. --[[User:Kahran042\|Kahran042]] ([[User talk:Kahran042\|talk]]) 19:54, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

Elronnd: /* Wizard with "-uwizard -Z"? */: it never worked

2015-05-28T16:51:21Z

Wizard with "-uwizard -Z"?: : it never worked

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	It insist that you must be user wizard.		It insist that you must be user wizard.
	Not very convenient.--[[User:Quantum Immortal\|Quantum Immortal]] ([[User talk:Quantum Immortal\|talk]]) 16:12, 28 May 2015 (UTC)		Not very convenient.--[[User:Quantum Immortal\|Quantum Immortal]] ([[User talk:Quantum Immortal\|talk]]) 16:12, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
			:It never worked. In all versions and variants of [[hack]] and [[NetHack]] since time immemorial, you have had to be a particular user in order to use [[wizard mode]] <span style="background:green;border-radius:15px 0 0 8px">[[user:Elronnd\|Elronnd]]</span><span style="background: orange;border-radius:0 8px 15px 0">[[user_talk:Elronnd\|(talk)]]</span> 16:51, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Quantum Immortal: /* Wizard with "-uwizard -Z"? */ new section

2015-05-28T16:12:04Z

Wizard with "-uwizard -Z"?: new section

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	:::::::Sporkhack's algorithm is to roll a d100 die and check if the result is lower than the resistance percentage, which is calculated as (Monster Level * 1.5) - 3 if the monster level is below 10, and Monster Level * 2.0 otherwise. A Level 50 monster would always ignore Elbereth, in that case. As for adding it to the pokedex I'm not sure, I haven't really looked into its function all that much. --[[User:Soviet5lo\|Soviet5lo]] ([[User talk:Soviet5lo\|talk]]) 04:29, 9 May 2015 (UTC)		:::::::Sporkhack's algorithm is to roll a d100 die and check if the result is lower than the resistance percentage, which is calculated as (Monster Level * 1.5) - 3 if the monster level is below 10, and Monster Level * 2.0 otherwise. A Level 50 monster would always ignore Elbereth, in that case. As for adding it to the pokedex I'm not sure, I haven't really looked into its function all that much. --[[User:Soviet5lo\|Soviet5lo]] ([[User talk:Soviet5lo\|talk]]) 04:29, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

			== Wizard with "-uwizard -Z"? ==

			The slashem command for wizard mode doesn't work any more.

			sudo /usr/local/bin/slashthem -uwizard -Z

			It insist that you must be user wizard.
			Not very convenient.--[[User:Quantum Immortal\|Quantum Immortal]] ([[User talk:Quantum Immortal\|talk]]) 16:12, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Soviet5lo: /* suggested changes */

2015-05-09T04:29:50Z

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	::::::I guess i was over reacting. What is the precise algorithm, it isn't in the wiki (beater add it in the [[Elbereth]] article). What about adding the failure rate of Elbereth in pokedex?--[[User:Quantum Immortal\|Quantum Immortal]] ([[User talk:Quantum Immortal\|talk]]) 03:06, 9 May 2015 (UTC)		::::::I guess i was over reacting. What is the precise algorithm, it isn't in the wiki (beater add it in the [[Elbereth]] article). What about adding the failure rate of Elbereth in pokedex?--[[User:Quantum Immortal\|Quantum Immortal]] ([[User talk:Quantum Immortal\|talk]]) 03:06, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

			:::::::Sporkhack's algorithm is to roll a d100 die and check if the result is lower than the resistance percentage, which is calculated as (Monster Level * 1.5) - 3 if the monster level is below 10, and Monster Level * 2.0 otherwise. A Level 50 monster would always ignore Elbereth, in that case. As for adding it to the pokedex I'm not sure, I haven't really looked into its function all that much. --[[User:Soviet5lo\|Soviet5lo]] ([[User talk:Soviet5lo\|talk]]) 04:29, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

Quantum Immortal: /* suggested changes */

2015-05-09T03:06:05Z

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	:::::Sporkhack correlates the success of Elbereth with monster level, yes. Weak monsters it works 100% of the time, with more difficult monsters its a bit harder to use successfully but not to the point where it's completely useless to even attempt. I'll juggle a few ideas to see if there's any better approaches to this. --[[User:Soviet5lo\|Soviet5lo]] ([[User talk:Soviet5lo\|talk]]) 07:52, 8 May 2015 (UTC)		:::::Sporkhack correlates the success of Elbereth with monster level, yes. Weak monsters it works 100% of the time, with more difficult monsters its a bit harder to use successfully but not to the point where it's completely useless to even attempt. I'll juggle a few ideas to see if there's any better approaches to this. --[[User:Soviet5lo\|Soviet5lo]] ([[User talk:Soviet5lo\|talk]]) 07:52, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

			::::::I guess i was over reacting. What is the precise algorithm, it isn't in the wiki (beater add it in the [[Elbereth]] article). What about adding the failure rate of Elbereth in pokedex?--[[User:Quantum Immortal\|Quantum Immortal]] ([[User talk:Quantum Immortal\|talk]]) 03:06, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

Soviet5lo: /* suggested changes */

2015-05-08T07:52:04Z

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	::::... Ok for now. You could wait first to see some players actually ascending. I'll first try a samurai, and then a wizard. How is it weakened any way? It correlates to monster level?--[[User:Quantum Immortal\|Quantum Immortal]] ([[User talk:Quantum Immortal\|talk]]) 05:06, 8 May 2015 (UTC)		::::... Ok for now. You could wait first to see some players actually ascending. I'll first try a samurai, and then a wizard. How is it weakened any way? It correlates to monster level?--[[User:Quantum Immortal\|Quantum Immortal]] ([[User talk:Quantum Immortal\|talk]]) 05:06, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

			:::::Sporkhack correlates the success of Elbereth with monster level, yes. Weak monsters it works 100% of the time, with more difficult monsters its a bit harder to use successfully but not to the point where it's completely useless to even attempt. I'll juggle a few ideas to see if there's any better approaches to this. --[[User:Soviet5lo\|Soviet5lo]] ([[User talk:Soviet5lo\|talk]]) 07:52, 8 May 2015 (UTC)