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Tahc: /* View template -links */ m

2012-09-10T17:39:56Z

‎View template -links: m

Tahc: /* View template -links */ m

2012-09-10T17:39:25Z

‎View template -links: m

Tahc: /* View template -links */ Wikipedia

2012-09-10T17:38:50Z

‎View template -links: Wikipedia

Tjr: /* View template -links */ IMHO, [v] adds no benefit.

2012-09-10T15:17:02Z

‎View template -links: IMHO, [v] adds no benefit.

Tahc: /* View template -links */ The link can be found that way, but it is still an extra step-- and I still don't see what the problem is with leaving it as it is. ~~~~

2012-09-04T01:41:22Z

‎View template -links: The link can be found that way, but it is still an extra step-- and I still don't see what the problem is with leaving it as it is. ~~~~

Bhaak at 09:09, 3 September 2012

2012-09-03T09:09:33Z

Paxed: View template -links

2012-09-02T14:31:45Z

View template -links

New user message: Welcoming new user

2012-08-31T18:05:34Z

Welcoming new user

New page

==Welcome!==
[[File:Welcoming party.png|right|thumb|''Welcome!'']]
Hi, Tahc! Welcome, and thanks for joining {{SITENAME}}!
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	:In my opinion, most users will not notice the "'''<nowiki>[v]</nowiki>'''" at all. Those who do will likely be confused, since it's not obvious "'''<nowiki>[v]</nowiki>'''" stands for view source. So I don't see a benefit to the "'''<nowiki>[v]</nowiki>'''". On the other hand, I think you have a legitimate complaint: it's too hard to figure out how all these transclusions work if you're new. Perhaps the proper course of action is to file a bug with the Mediawiki devs. However, the importance of software ergonomics and usability seem to be a hard sell on developers in general. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] ([[User talk:Tjr\|talk]]) 15:17, 10 September 2012 (UTC)		:In my opinion, most users will not notice the "'''<nowiki>[v]</nowiki>'''" at all. Those who do will likely be confused, since it's not obvious "'''<nowiki>[v]</nowiki>'''" stands for view source. So I don't see a benefit to the "'''<nowiki>[v]</nowiki>'''". On the other hand, I think you have a legitimate complaint: it's too hard to figure out how all these transclusions work if you're new. Perhaps the proper course of action is to file a bug with the Mediawiki devs. However, the importance of software ergonomics and usability seem to be a hard sell on developers in general. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] ([[User talk:Tjr\|talk]]) 15:17, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

−	::To editors of Wikipedia (at least), such such a [v] will be understood, since that is the standard use on ~~tmeplates~~ of that wiki. '''[[User:Tahc\|tahc]]''' '''<sup>[[User talk:Tahc\|chat]]</sup>''' 17:38, 10 September 2012 (UTC)	+	::To editors of Wikipedia (at least), such such a [v] will be understood, since that is the standard use on templates of that wiki. '''[[User:Tahc\|tahc]]''' '''<sup>[[User talk:Tahc\|chat]]</sup>''' 17:38, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

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	:In my opinion, most users will not notice the "'''<nowiki>[v]</nowiki>'''" at all. Those who do will likely be confused, since it's not obvious "'''<nowiki>[v]</nowiki>'''" stands for view source. So I don't see a benefit to the "'''<nowiki>[v]</nowiki>'''". On the other hand, I think you have a legitimate complaint: it's too hard to figure out how all these transclusions work if you're new. Perhaps the proper course of action is to file a bug with the Mediawiki devs. However, the importance of software ergonomics and usability seem to be a hard sell on developers in general. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] ([[User talk:Tjr\|talk]]) 15:17, 10 September 2012 (UTC)		:In my opinion, most users will not notice the "'''<nowiki>[v]</nowiki>'''" at all. Those who do will likely be confused, since it's not obvious "'''<nowiki>[v]</nowiki>'''" stands for view source. So I don't see a benefit to the "'''<nowiki>[v]</nowiki>'''". On the other hand, I think you have a legitimate complaint: it's too hard to figure out how all these transclusions work if you're new. Perhaps the proper course of action is to file a bug with the Mediawiki devs. However, the importance of software ergonomics and usability seem to be a hard sell on developers in general. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] ([[User talk:Tjr\|talk]]) 15:17, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

−	::To editors of Wikipedia, at least, such such a [v] will be understood, since that is the standard use on tmeplates of that wiki. '''[[User:Tahc\|tahc]]''' '''<sup>[[User talk:Tahc\|chat]]</sup>''' 17:38, 10 September 2012 (UTC)	+	::To editors of Wikipedia (at least), such such a [v] will be understood, since that is the standard use on tmeplates of that wiki. '''[[User:Tahc\|tahc]]''' '''<sup>[[User talk:Tahc\|chat]]</sup>''' 17:38, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

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	:In my opinion, most users will not notice the "'''<nowiki>[v]</nowiki>'''" at all. Those who do will likely be confused, since it's not obvious "'''<nowiki>[v]</nowiki>'''" stands for view source. So I don't see a benefit to the "'''<nowiki>[v]</nowiki>'''". On the other hand, I think you have a legitimate complaint: it's too hard to figure out how all these transclusions work if you're new. Perhaps the proper course of action is to file a bug with the Mediawiki devs. However, the importance of software ergonomics and usability seem to be a hard sell on developers in general. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] ([[User talk:Tjr\|talk]]) 15:17, 10 September 2012 (UTC)		:In my opinion, most users will not notice the "'''<nowiki>[v]</nowiki>'''" at all. Those who do will likely be confused, since it's not obvious "'''<nowiki>[v]</nowiki>'''" stands for view source. So I don't see a benefit to the "'''<nowiki>[v]</nowiki>'''". On the other hand, I think you have a legitimate complaint: it's too hard to figure out how all these transclusions work if you're new. Perhaps the proper course of action is to file a bug with the Mediawiki devs. However, the importance of software ergonomics and usability seem to be a hard sell on developers in general. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] ([[User talk:Tjr\|talk]]) 15:17, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
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		+	::To editors of Wikipedia, at least, such such a [v] will be understood, since that is the standard use on tmeplates of that wiki. '''[[User:Tahc\|tahc]]''' '''<sup>[[User talk:Tahc\|chat]]</sup>''' 17:38, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

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	The link can be found that way, but it is still an extra step-- and I still don't see what the problem is with leaving it as it is. '''[[User:Tahc\|tahc]]''' '''<sup>[[User talk:Tahc\|chat]]</sup>''' 01:41, 4 September 2012 (UTC)		The link can be found that way, but it is still an extra step-- and I still don't see what the problem is with leaving it as it is. '''[[User:Tahc\|tahc]]''' '''<sup>[[User talk:Tahc\|chat]]</sup>''' 01:41, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
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		+	:In my opinion, most users will not notice the "'''<nowiki>[v]</nowiki>'''" at all. Those who do will likely be confused, since it's not obvious "'''<nowiki>[v]</nowiki>'''" stands for view source. So I don't see a benefit to the "'''<nowiki>[v]</nowiki>'''". On the other hand, I think you have a legitimate complaint: it's too hard to figure out how all these transclusions work if you're new. Perhaps the proper course of action is to file a bug with the Mediawiki devs. However, the importance of software ergonomics and usability seem to be a hard sell on developers in general. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] ([[User talk:Tjr\|talk]]) 15:17, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

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	The templates aren't edited often enough to need the link, and the people who should be editing templates know where to find them without the link. Also, the link shows up when printing the page. --[[User:Paxed\|paxed]] ([[User talk:Paxed\|talk]]) 14:31, 2 September 2012 (UTC)		The templates aren't edited often enough to need the link, and the people who should be editing templates know where to find them without the link. Also, the link shows up when printing the page. --[[User:Paxed\|paxed]] ([[User talk:Paxed\|talk]]) 14:31, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

−	When you edit a page, all used templates are shown at the bottom "Templates used on this page:", so it's really not needed at all. --[[User:Bhaak\|Bhaak]] ([[User talk:Bhaak\|talk]]) 09:09, 3 September 2012 (UTC)	+	:When you edit a page, all used templates are shown at the bottom "Templates used on this page:", so it's really not needed at all. --[[User:Bhaak\|Bhaak]] ([[User talk:Bhaak\|talk]]) 09:09, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
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		+	The link can be found that way, but it is still an extra step-- and I still don't see what the problem is with leaving it as it is. '''[[User:Tahc\|tahc]]''' '''<sup>[[User talk:Tahc\|chat]]</sup>''' 01:41, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

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	Re. [[Template:ASCII]] and [[Template:Keyboard Commands]]: the "view" -link to the template in the template itself is not needed.		Re. [[Template:ASCII]] and [[Template:Keyboard Commands]]: the "view" -link to the template in the template itself is not needed.
	The templates aren't edited often enough to need the link, and the people who should be editing templates know where to find them without the link. Also, the link shows up when printing the page. --[[User:Paxed\|paxed]] ([[User talk:Paxed\|talk]]) 14:31, 2 September 2012 (UTC)		The templates aren't edited often enough to need the link, and the people who should be editing templates know where to find them without the link. Also, the link shows up when printing the page. --[[User:Paxed\|paxed]] ([[User talk:Paxed\|talk]]) 14:31, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
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		+	When you edit a page, all used templates are shown at the bottom "Templates used on this page:", so it's really not needed at all. --[[User:Bhaak\|Bhaak]] ([[User talk:Bhaak\|talk]]) 09:09, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

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	-- [[User:New user message\|New user message]] ([[User talk:New user message\|talk]]) 18:05, 31 August 2012 (UTC)		-- [[User:New user message\|New user message]] ([[User talk:New user message\|talk]]) 18:05, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
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		+	==View template -links==
		+	Re. [[Template:ASCII]] and [[Template:Keyboard Commands]]: the "view" -link to the template in the template itself is not needed.
		+	The templates aren't edited often enough to need the link, and the people who should be editing templates know where to find them without the link. Also, the link shows up when printing the page. --[[User:Paxed\|paxed]] ([[User talk:Paxed\|talk]]) 14:31, 2 September 2012 (UTC)