Weaponless - Revision history

Umbire the Phantom: Umbire the Phantom moved page Never hit with a wielded weapon to Weaponless: way more intuitive page title

2025-04-01T05:32:24Z

Umbire the Phantom moved page Never hit with a wielded weapon to Weaponless: way more intuitive page title

Tomsod: who ever throws axes?

2019-06-09T16:40:42Z

who ever throws axes?

Tjr: a chance to break conduct with a bullwhip if you aren't proficient enough

2011-05-31T21:44:16Z

a chance to break conduct with a bullwhip if you aren't proficient enough

PeterGFin: Role comparison table

2010-12-11T11:01:13Z

Role comparison table

Tjr: 6.5% of all player have done weaponless

2010-10-30T18:11:53Z

6.5% of all player have done weaponless

Tjr: kick down doors for dexterity (but beware nymphs)

2009-10-06T21:33:58Z

kick down doors for dexterity (but beware nymphs)

Tjr: bullwhip exception

2009-07-02T12:58:24Z

bullwhip exception

Ray Chason: The grammar nazi hits!

2008-05-21T22:13:06Z

The grammar nazi hits!

Someone Else: Minor typo.

2006-11-26T16:08:50Z

Minor typo.

Someone Else at 16:08, 26 November 2006

2006-11-26T16:08:23Z

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 The best way to follow this conduct is to never wield ''any'' weapon, with careful exceptions when not fighting monsters. You might wield a blade to #[[force]] open a chest, but remember to unwield it so that you do not hit any monsters with it. If you do wield a pick-axe, be careful to dig without hitting any monsters and to unwield the pick-axe when digging is complete. The [[rec.games.roguelike.nethack]] archives do contain stories of weaponless games ruined when the [[hero]] whacked some [[monster]] with the pick-axe.
-Though you never hit with a wielded weapon, you may still fight bare-handed, throw weapons, throw rocks, and use other offensive techniques such as [[wand]]s and [[spell]]s. The best weapons to throw are [[dagger]]s. You also want [[dart]]s, because you can get them from [[dart trap]]s and you might need them should you throw all of your daggers. Avoid the [[bow]], [[crossbow]] and [[sling]], because if you wield them then you will soon hit a monster with them.
+Though you never hit with a wielded weapon, you may still fight bare-handed, throw weapons, throw rocks, and use other offensive techniques such as [[wand]]s and [[spell]]s. The best weapons to throw are [[dagger]]s. You also want [[dart]]s, because you can get them from [[dart trap]]s and you might need them should you throw all of your daggers. Avoid the [[bow]], [[crossbow]], [[sling]] and [[aklys]], because if you wield them then you will soon hit a monster with them.
 {| class="prettytable"
-! Role !! Bare Hands !! Martial Arts !! Best ranged weapon skill
+! Role !! Bare Hands !! Martial Arts !! Preferred ranged weapon
 |-
-|[[Archaeologist]]||Expert||  ||Expert in Boomerang
+|[[Archaeologist]]||Expert||  ||[[boomerang]] (Expert)
 |-
-|[[Barbarian]]||Master||  ||Expert in Axe
+|[[Barbarian]]||Master||  ||[[spear]] (Skilled)
 |-
-|[[Caveman]]||Master||  ||Expert in 3 weapons
+|[[Caveman]]||Master||  ||[[spear]] (Expert, [[multishot]] bonus)
 |-
-|[[Healer]]||Basic||  ||Expert in Dart and Knife
+|[[Healer]]||Basic||  ||[[knife]] (Expert, no [[multishot]] penalty)
 |-
-|[[Knight]]||Expert||  ||Skilled in 4 weapons
+|[[Knight]]||Expert||  ||[[spear]] (Skilled)
 |-
-|[[Monk]]||  ||Grand Master||Basic in 4 weapons
+|[[Monk]]||  ||Grand Master||[[shuriken]] (Basic, [[multishot]] bonus)
 |-
-|[[Priest]]||Basic||  ||Skilled in 3 weapons
+|[[Priest]]||Basic||  ||[[spear]] (Skilled, but no [[multishot]])
 |-
-|[[Ranger]]||Basic||  ||Expert in 7 weapons
+|[[Ranger]]||Basic||  ||[[dart]], [[boomerang]], or [[spear]] (Expert, [[multishot]] bonus)
 |-
-|[[Rogue]]||Expert||  ||Expert in 4 weapons
+|[[Rogue]]||Expert||  ||[[dagger]] (Expert, [[multishot]] bonus)
 |-
-|[[Samurai]]||  ||Master||Expert in Bow and Shuriken
+|[[Samurai]]||  ||Master||[[shuriken]] (Expert)
 |-
-|[[Tourist]]||Skilled||  ||Expert in Dagger and Dart
+|[[Tourist]]||Skilled||  ||[[dart]] (Expert, no [[multishot]] penalty)
 |-
-|[[Valkyrie]]||Expert||  ||Expert in Dagger and Axe
+|[[Valkyrie]]||Expert||  ||[[dagger]] (Expert)
 |-
-|[[Wizard]]||Basic||  ||Expert in Dagger and Dart
+|[[Wizard]]||Basic||  ||[[dart]] or [[dagger]] (Expert, but with [[multishot]] penalty)
 |}

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−	If you followed the '''weaponless''' [[conduct]], then you '''never hit with a wielded weapon'''. Anything in the "weapon" section of your inventory or represented by an [[)]] is a weapon. Three [[tools]], the [[grappling hook]], [[pick-axe]] and the [[unicorn horn]], count as weapons. Conversely, applying a [[bullwhip]] breaks conduct only if the target is not wielding a weapon.	+	If you followed the '''weaponless''' [[conduct]], then you '''never hit with a wielded weapon'''. Anything in the "weapon" section of your inventory or represented by an [[)]] is a weapon. Three [[tools]], the [[grappling hook]], [[pick-axe]] and the [[unicorn horn]], count as weapons. Conversely, applying a [[bullwhip]] breaks conduct only if the target is not wielding a weapon (or a chance if you aren't proficient enough).

	The best way to follow this conduct is to never wield ''any'' weapon, with careful exceptions when not fighting monsters. You might wield a blade to #[[force]] open a chest, but remember to unwield it so that you do not hit any monsters with it. If you do wield a pick-axe, be careful to dig without hitting any monsters and to unwield the pick-axe when digging is complete. The [[rec.games.roguelike.nethack]] archives do contain stories of weaponless games ruined when the [[hero]] whacked some [[monster]] with the pick-axe.		The best way to follow this conduct is to never wield ''any'' weapon, with careful exceptions when not fighting monsters. You might wield a blade to #[[force]] open a chest, but remember to unwield it so that you do not hit any monsters with it. If you do wield a pick-axe, be careful to dig without hitting any monsters and to unwield the pick-axe when digging is complete. The [[rec.games.roguelike.nethack]] archives do contain stories of weaponless games ruined when the [[hero]] whacked some [[monster]] with the pick-axe.

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	Though you never hit with a wielded weapon, you may still fight bare-handed, throw weapons, throw rocks, and use other offensive techniques such as [[wand]]s and [[spell]]s. The best weapons to throw are [[dagger]]s. You also want [[dart]]s, because you can get them from [[dart trap]]s and you might need them should you throw all of your daggers. Avoid the [[bow]], [[crossbow]] and [[sling]], because if you wield them then you will soon hit a monster with them.		Though you never hit with a wielded weapon, you may still fight bare-handed, throw weapons, throw rocks, and use other offensive techniques such as [[wand]]s and [[spell]]s. The best weapons to throw are [[dagger]]s. You also want [[dart]]s, because you can get them from [[dart trap]]s and you might need them should you throw all of your daggers. Avoid the [[bow]], [[crossbow]] and [[sling]], because if you wield them then you will soon hit a monster with them.
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		+	{\| class="prettytable"
		+	! Role !! Bare Hands !! Martial Arts !! Best ranged weapon skill
		+	\|-
		+	\|[[Archaeologist]]\|\|Expert\|\| \|\|Expert in Boomerang
		+	\|-
		+	\|[[Barbarian]]\|\|Master\|\| \|\|Expert in Axe
		+	\|-
		+	\|[[Caveman]]\|\|Master\|\| \|\|Expert in 3 weapons
		+	\|-
		+	\|[[Healer]]\|\|Basic\|\| \|\|Expert in Dart and Knife
		+	\|-
		+	\|[[Knight]]\|\|Expert\|\| \|\|Skilled in 4 weapons
		+	\|-
		+	\|[[Monk]]\|\| \|\|Grand Master\|\|Basic in 4 weapons
		+	\|-
		+	\|[[Priest]]\|\|Basic\|\| \|\|Skilled in 3 weapons
		+	\|-
		+	\|[[Ranger]]\|\|Basic\|\| \|\|Expert in 7 weapons
		+	\|-
		+	\|[[Rogue]]\|\|Expert\|\| \|\|Expert in 4 weapons
		+	\|-
		+	\|[[Samurai]]\|\| \|\|Master\|\|Expert in Bow and Shuriken
		+	\|-
		+	\|[[Tourist]]\|\|Skilled\|\| \|\|Expert in Dagger and Dart
		+	\|-
		+	\|[[Valkyrie]]\|\|Expert\|\| \|\|Expert in Dagger and Axe
		+	\|-
		+	\|[[Wizard]]\|\|Basic\|\| \|\|Expert in Dagger and Dart
		+	\|}

	Dexterity is normally trained up in melee; some players kick down doors (with its own drawbacks) or repeatedly pick locks to compensate for that.		Dexterity is normally trained up in melee; some players kick down doors (with its own drawbacks) or repeatedly pick locks to compensate for that.

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 What [[role]] for your weaponless character? [[Monk]] is the most popular and obvious choice. Monks fight best with [[martial arts]] or [[artifact weapon]]s, and you can avoid the latter, preferring spells or wands. The [[Barbarian]] is more difficult. Barbarians can still use bare-handed combat, but not the martial arts of Monks, and their difficulty with spells makes it hard to find alternatives to [[Cleaver]] and [[artifact weapon]]s when they must do more damage. Also consider the weaponless [[Wizard]]. Wizards can start by throwing daggers instead of wielding them. With one exception, Wizards fight better using spells than weapons. The one difficulty is that a weaponless Wizard must not wield [[Magicbane]], lest he thrust it into a monster by accident. Instead of taking curses with Magicbane, weaponless Wizards should find a [[spellbook of remove curse]] and keep a stack of [[holy water]].
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	Though you never hit with a wielded weapon, you may still fight bare-handed, throw weapons, throw rocks, and use other offensive techniques such as [[wand]]s and [[spell]]s. The best weapons to throw are [[dagger]]s. You also want [[dart]]s, because you can get them from [[dart trap]]s and you might need them should you throw all of your daggers. Avoid the [[bow]], [[crossbow]] and [[sling]], because if you wield them then you will soon hit a monster with them.		Though you never hit with a wielded weapon, you may still fight bare-handed, throw weapons, throw rocks, and use other offensive techniques such as [[wand]]s and [[spell]]s. The best weapons to throw are [[dagger]]s. You also want [[dart]]s, because you can get them from [[dart trap]]s and you might need them should you throw all of your daggers. Avoid the [[bow]], [[crossbow]] and [[sling]], because if you wield them then you will soon hit a monster with them.
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		+	Dexterity is normally trained up in melee; some players kick down doors (with its own drawbacks) or repeatedly pick locks to compensate for that.

	What [[role]] for your weaponless character? [[Monk]] is the most popular and obvious choice. Monks fight best with [[martial arts]] or [[artifact weapon]]s, and you can avoid the latter, preferring spells or wands. The [[Barbarian]] is more difficult. Barbarians can still use bare-handed combat, but not the martial arts of Monks, and their difficulty with spells makes it hard to find alternatives to [[Cleaver]] and [[artifact weapon]]s when they must do more damage. Also consider the weaponless [[Wizard]]. Wizards can start by throwing daggers instead of wielding them. With one exception, Wizards fight better using spells than weapons. The one difficulty is that a weaponless Wizard must not wield [[Magicbane]], lest he thrust it into a monster by accident. Instead of taking curses with Magicbane, weaponless Wizards should find a [[spellbook of remove curse]] and keep a stack of [[holy water]].		What [[role]] for your weaponless character? [[Monk]] is the most popular and obvious choice. Monks fight best with [[martial arts]] or [[artifact weapon]]s, and you can avoid the latter, preferring spells or wands. The [[Barbarian]] is more difficult. Barbarians can still use bare-handed combat, but not the martial arts of Monks, and their difficulty with spells makes it hard to find alternatives to [[Cleaver]] and [[artifact weapon]]s when they must do more damage. Also consider the weaponless [[Wizard]]. Wizards can start by throwing daggers instead of wielding them. With one exception, Wizards fight better using spells than weapons. The one difficulty is that a weaponless Wizard must not wield [[Magicbane]], lest he thrust it into a monster by accident. Instead of taking curses with Magicbane, weaponless Wizards should find a [[spellbook of remove curse]] and keep a stack of [[holy water]].

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−	If you followed the '''weaponless''' [[conduct]], then you '''never hit with a wielded weapon'''. Anything in the "weapon" section of your inventory or represented by an [[)]] is a weapon. Three [[tools]], the [[grappling hook]], [[pick-axe]] and the [[unicorn horn]], count as weapons.	+	If you followed the '''weaponless''' [[conduct]], then you '''never hit with a wielded weapon'''. Anything in the "weapon" section of your inventory or represented by an [[)]] is a weapon. Three [[tools]], the [[grappling hook]], [[pick-axe]] and the [[unicorn horn]], count as weapons. Conversely, applying a [[bullwhip]] breaks conduct only if the target is not wielding a weapon.

	The best way to follow this conduct is to never wield ''any'' weapon, with careful exceptions when not fighting monsters. You might wield a blade to #[[force]] open a chest, but remember to unwield it so that you do not hit any monsters with it. If you do wield a pick-axe, be careful to dig without hitting any monsters and to unwield the pick-axe when digging is complete. The [[rec.games.roguelike.nethack]] archives do contain stories of weaponless games ruined when the [[hero]] whacked some [[monster]] with the pick-axe.		The best way to follow this conduct is to never wield ''any'' weapon, with careful exceptions when not fighting monsters. You might wield a blade to #[[force]] open a chest, but remember to unwield it so that you do not hit any monsters with it. If you do wield a pick-axe, be careful to dig without hitting any monsters and to unwield the pick-axe when digging is complete. The [[rec.games.roguelike.nethack]] archives do contain stories of weaponless games ruined when the [[hero]] whacked some [[monster]] with the pick-axe.

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−	If you followed the '''weaponless''' [[conduct]], then you '''never hit with a wielded weapon'''. Anything in the "weapon" section of your inventory or represented by an [[)]] is a weapon. Three [[tools]], the [[~~grapling~~ hook]], [[pick-axe]] and the [[unicorn horn]], count as weapons.	+	If you followed the '''weaponless''' [[conduct]], then you '''never hit with a wielded weapon'''. Anything in the "weapon" section of your inventory or represented by an [[)]] is a weapon. Three [[tools]], the [[grappling hook]], [[pick-axe]] and the [[unicorn horn]], count as weapons.

	The best way to follow this conduct is to never wield ''any'' weapon, with careful exceptions when not fighting monsters. You might wield a blade to #[[force]] open a chest, but remember to unwield it so that you hit not any monsters with it. If you do wield a pick-axe, be careful to dig without hitting any monsters and to unwield the pick-axe when digging is complete. The [[rec.games.roguelike.nethack]] archives do contain stories of weaponless games ruined when the [[hero]] whacked some [[monster]] with the pick-axe.		The best way to follow this conduct is to never wield ''any'' weapon, with careful exceptions when not fighting monsters. You might wield a blade to #[[force]] open a chest, but remember to unwield it so that you hit not any monsters with it. If you do wield a pick-axe, be careful to dig without hitting any monsters and to unwield the pick-axe when digging is complete. The [[rec.games.roguelike.nethack]] archives do contain stories of weaponless games ruined when the [[hero]] whacked some [[monster]] with the pick-axe.