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I've stumbled on two wands of wishing in the shop (price id'd and then formally id'd with scrolls as wishing 0:2 and 0:3).  Now that's a lot of wishes and I'm thinking that it would be better to spend then sooner rather than dyding with unused wishes.  Also I haven't sacrificed yet so I can reliably score a couple of artifacts.  I'm thinking the best idea is to use them up now and get well equipped to hopefully avoid some YASD.  This means getting Reflection, Magic Resistance and some weaponry So given I can have 11 wished if I included scrools of charging how about:<br />

1. 2 Blessed Scrolls of charging<br />
2. Blessed Eyes of the Overworld (magic resistance in an otherwise unused slot) <br />
3. Blessed +2 Silver Dragon Scale Mail<br />
4. Bleesed +2 Magicbane<br />
7. Blessed +2 rustproof Frostbrand (not 100% chance  should I ask for this before the Eyes?<br />
5. Blessed rustproof +2 gauntlets of power<br />
6. Blessed fireproof +2 pair of speed boots<br />
So I'd have 4 left<br />
8. 2 Blessed scrolls of genocide? (Mind Flayers and Liches)<br />
9. Blessed Tinning kit? (better get the intrinsics sorted early) or Bag of Holding<br />
10 Saved<br />

Given that there is the wand in the castle to add another few later.<br />

I haven't ascended yet and my best game got down to Orcustown before I wandered back up and got YASD while polypiling.  Hence I'd like to give myself the best possible chance.{{unsigned|VeryRisky}}

:What is your role? As a wizard you should not wish for Magicbane, for example. Also, wishing for Frost Brand is probably a bad idea; there are [[Grayswandir|better artifact weapons]], and you can probably sacrifice for Frost Brand anyway. Additionally, there's no real need to wish for an artifact weapon. Also beware [[artifact blast]] when wishing. Also, don't wish for gauntlets of power - no need to at all. Also don't wish for genocide scrolls - wait until you can find and ID them, then wish for a [[magic marker]]. (If you're in real danger at any point, you still have enough wishes to wish up an emergency genocide.)
:The [[Eyes of the Overworld]] are great and fun, though I'd prefer a [[cloak of magic resistance]] personally, especially because there's no artifact blast - plus, it provides [[Magic cancellation|MC3]], which the Eyes don't. On the topic of reflection, silver dragon scale mail is great for that (you might want to check Sokoban for its possible [[amulet of reflection]] first, but given that you're swimming in wishes…).
:[[Bag of holding]] - only if you don't find one in [[Sokoban]], obviously. Similar for [[tinning kit]]s; check the [[gnomish Mines|Mines]] first. (Even then it might not be that great a wish, though.)
:IIRC your overall [[Armor class|AC]] will probably be higher if wishing for everything as +3 - don't trust me on that, though. Also, you will want your armor greased and fixed. --[[User:Bcode|Bcode]] ([[User talk:Bcode|talk]]) 14:55, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

:If you're going to artiwish and you aren't a wizard, you might as well wish for the Eye of the Aethiopica instead of the Eyes of the Overworld.  No, it doesn't have the fun astral vision component, but increased PP regeneration, branchporting and half spell damage are worth astral vision several times over.
:If you are a wizard, then you don't need Magicbane, and already having a cloak of magic resistance, the Eyes are something of a waste of an artifact wish.
:Another thing you should probably wish for is a [[ring of slow digestion]]: You'd be surprised how little food the dungeon can sometimes throw at you in the early levels, and it's nice to be able to reserve your prayers exclusively for times when you're actually in danger, as opposed to just needing food.  Just mind your satiation level and make sure you take the ring off once you hit Satiated, so as to not abuse Dexterity and risk choking.
:Lastly, you don't have 11 wishes, you have 13.  After you exhaust those two wands, you can [[wrest]] the last charge from them.  This is best done by putting yourself in a safe place (a burned Elbereth square works well), setting the drained wand to 'z', and holding that key down.  The chance is 1/121 per turn so you'll generally get it in under 200 or so.  So definitely add slow digestion to the wish list, and maybe also a [[ring of free action]] or a [[ring of conflict]]. -[[User:Ion frigate|Ion frigate]] ([[User talk:Ion frigate|talk]]) 15:26, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

:One thing I don't see in your list is a source of [[poison resistance]].  Sure, that may seem like a silly thing to waste a wish on, given that it's pretty easy to acquire once you have a [[unihorn]], but remember that you're on DL 1 and have a crapload of wishes.  Having kitted yourself out to take care of most other sources of [[instadeath]], it would be pretty damn annoying for your game to end in ''"The poison was deadly..."''  In your situation, a [[tin]] or two of [[green dragon]] meat might not be such a bad choice for a wish.  (Of course, disregard this if you're playing a role or race that starts with poison resistance.)  --[[User:Ilmari Karonen|Ilmari Karonen]] ([[User talk:Ilmari Karonen|talk]]) 17:27, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

::Forgot to say I am a Neutral Human [[Valkyrie]].  I have now used 2 wishes SDSM and the [[The Eye of the Aethiopica]] (I mistook my eyes mand got the wrong one !).  I planned I'd go for the glasses as I will be getting the teleport from the Orb later.  Didn't want to wish for Grayswandir as I only get basic in Saber.<br>
::Have now converted an altar but not sacrificed further.  I haven't bought the second wand yet but have made it to [[Sokoban]] (surprised to see a [green dragon on the Oracle level) so will see if I get holding before I go back up.  I'm thinking that I should not sacrifice for artifacts (other than after praying) until I have fired off a few wishes.--[[User:VeryRisky|VeryRisky]] ([[User talk:VeryRisky|talk]]) 18:12, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

:::The EotA isn't bad either.  With free energy regen, you might want to consider getting a [[robe]] and going for a spellcasting Valk &mdash; they're surprisingly fun to play.  Just remember to [[exercise]] your wisdom and work on getting your [[pw|maxpw]] up.  I assume you ate that dragon, right?  --[[User:Ilmari Karonen|Ilmari Karonen]] ([[User talk:Ilmari Karonen|talk]]) 18:21, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

You might want to consider wishing for a regular athame instead of Magicbane, since you already have a source of magic resistance. This allows for another artifact wish.

: I just found a wand of wishing on level 2 as an Elven Ranger. I wished for [[Dragon scale mail|Gray Dragon Scale Mail]], [[Stormbringer]], a [[Wand of cancellation]] (because I accidentally cursed my starter weapons), [[Scrolls of charging]], [[Speed boots]], and a [[Bag of holding]]. Then walked into the shop in the next room and had my butt handed to me by two [[mimic|mimics]]. I got cocky, I guess! --[[User:Erima|Erima]] ([[User talk:Erima|talk]]) 15:29, 10 October 2012 (UTC)