Forum:Ultimate ascension run preparation?

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So I'm sitting at my stash contemplating my ascension run. (Actually more like a descension-ascension run - I've gotten down to the Valley of the Dead and I think I have everything I'll need to descend through Gehennom, map it as I go, get the amulet, and come back up all in one go. Someone tell me if this is bad idea for some reason.)

Anyway, I was thinking of my first ascension when I took the time to dig a straight line between every set of staircases on every level of the dungeon. And I wondered, what would be the most absurd, neurotic, over-prepared way to prepare for your ascension run? Not as a discussion of actual strategy, but just as a thought exercise/mockery of my first massively over-prepared ascension.

Ideas so far:

-Dig a straight line between every set of staircases on every level. Easily doable with a pickaxe and patience

-Engrave an Elbereth on every tile of the path you just made. I was tempted to say "permanent Elbereth" but that would probably be impossible to accomplish in a single lifetime. Semi-permanent, however, would also be doable with an athame and patience

-Make one long boulder fort walling off each side of the straight-line-Elbereth-path? Um? Lots of scrolls of earth? Lots of reverse genociding giants to throw boulders at you? I'm not sure if this could be done.

-Alternatively, dig a hole on each side of the SLEP (the straight-line-Elbereth-path, remember?). Also entirely doable with pickaxe, patience, and a masochistic streak.

Joyous Cow 10:29, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

I've gotten down to the Valley of the Dead you've a long way to go, then, especially if you've not got further before.
Dig a straight line... what, you mean other people don't? maybe this is why i keep failing.
Engrave an Elbereth... if you're prepared to be this ocd about it, pudding farming, polymorph and a pyec will give you enough charges to make them all permanent.
i guess the real question is, are there enough sessile monsters to enhance the fifty or so boulder forts?
oh, yes, and the wizard can fly so pits are no use. --194.116.198.179 11:48, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
It kind of seems like you're more likely to get yourself killed from YASD while making this path as opposed to the couple times you'll have to deal with the Wizard on your way out. -208.97.245.131 21:20, 5 October 2011 (UTC)


Dig a straight line...

My friend digged out every level of the Gehennom map. --Glisignoli 20:37, 4 December 2011 (UTC)User:Glisignoli

I imagine that'd make things harder. If you dig out everything you no longer have any narrow corridors, and monsters spawning anywhere will have an easy path to get to you. While corridors make you more likely to get surrounded, being in wide open areas means that if you DO get surrounded you're in a worse position, and it's very easy to get surrounded from summon nasties spam. -- Qazmlpok 21:17, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
Not only that, but even if you don't get surrounded, you will be an easy prey to long range attacks, such as spells, wands, and projectiles. For this reason, unless you want to use ray attacks, it is probably best to avoid making straight lines while digging in Gehennom.--66.93.240.163 02:17, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Wouldn't the boulder fort idea be ridiculously stupid? While carrying amulet, mysterious force can place you anywhere on a level. You would be outside your boulder fort and Elbereth path and you would have to dig in there anyway. Preparing 20 cursed potions of gain level would need less time to create and would be more efficient way to get out. --130.233.175.74 09:41, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
20 cursed potions of gain level might not be enough to leave Gehennom - not only can it be longer than 20 levels, but there is also the mysterious force which makes you spend more potions. --Bcode (talk) 11:56, 13 June 2012 (UTC)