Talk:Ashikaga Takauji

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Wands of death

Based on my research at offensive item, it looks like none of the monsters specifically generated on the Samurai quest are actually eligible for wands of death. If this is correct, trying to find one on the quest might not be such a good idea. -- Killian 02:19, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

I just got one from one of the samurai in the Shogun's castle. According to the difficulty page samurai player monsters are difficulty 12, so they're eligible for wands of death. Still, with only six samurai, the chance of getting a wand of death seems pretty low. -- Slandor 14:05, June 2, 2010 (UTC)

Wand of polymorf

Much simplier to find, even on quest levels have found two. Works as good, as wand of death. Convert rebel daymio in coyote & kill! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.138.244.218 (talkcontribs) 14 March 2009

why top cause of NAO most egregious death?

Why does this guy run NAO's list of most egregious deaths almost without competition? The article claims his attacks are not that spectacular. Tjr 16:52, June 5, 2010 (UTC)


"Most egregious" means "most negative HP." According to a thread I read in the RGRN archive, the Tsurugi's bisection and Vorpal Blade's decaptiation do damage of twice your HP + 200. So if you have a lot of HP and Ashikaga bisects you, you'll wind up with a lot of negative HP.

This is also presumably why a lot of the other entries are named player monsters; those would be player monsters that were generated with Vorpy on the Astral Plane. I'm guessing that the "killed by a samurai" are people who killed Ashikaga from afar and lost a race for the Tsurugi. I don't know what happened to ctaboir, killed by a gnome king, though given the insanely high maxHP I'm guessing he did it on purpose. I also don't know how the top two entries managed to get almost ten thousand negative HP when their max HP was in the hundreds. Slandor 17:27, June 5, 2010 (UTC)