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Cool idea for a new pet option! In the book The Compleat Angler, Izaak Walton mentions fishermen domesticating otters and training them to catch fish. Maybe taming an otter would give you an amphibious pet that can fight sea monsters?

The skunk's poison attack could create small stinking clouds (like a cursed scroll). This could be a SMoP, since I don't know of any patches that make stinking clouds a monster attack (except possibly Cthulhu creating a stinking cloud on death in SLethe, etc., or poison breath leaving stinking clouds in UnNetHack), but it might be cool.

——Cherokee Jack (talk) 00:19, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

  • Both of those are great ideas, especially the skunk one. Thanks for the suggestions! :) --Kahran042 (talk) 02:53, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

Here are some excerpts from The Compleat Angler (chapter II, "On the Otter and the Chub") on otters, as possible material for an encyclopedia entry:

On the uses of otter skins (cf. polypiling crocodile corpses):
Venator. Why, Sir, what is the skin worth?
Huntsman. It is worth ten shillings to make gloves; the gloves of an Otter are the best fortification for your hands that can be thought on against wet weather.
On otters in general, and specifically on the question of their taxonomy (could be abridged):
Piscator. I pray, honest Huntsman, let me ask you a pleasant question: do you hunt a beast or a fish?
Huntsman. Sir, it is not in my power to resolve you; I leave it to be resolved by the college of Carthusians, who have made vows never to eat flesh. But, I have heard, the question hath been debated among many great clerks, and they seem to differ about it; yet most agree that her tail is fish: and if her body be fish too, then I may say that a fish will walk upon land: for an Otter does so sometimes, five or six or ten miles in a night, to catch for her young ones, or to glut herself with fish. And I can tell you that Pigeons will fly forty miles for a breakfast: but, Sir, I am sure the Otter devours much fish, and kills and spoils much more than he eats. And I can tell you, that this dog-fisher, for so the Latins call him, can smell a fish in the water a hundred yards from him: Gesner says much farther: and that his stones are good against the falling sickness; and that there is an herb, Benione, which, being hung in a linen cloth near a fish-pond, or any haunt that he uses, makes him to avoid the place; which proves he smells both by water and land. And, I can tell you, there is brave hunting this water-dog in Cornwall; where there have been so many, that our learned Camden says there is a river called Ottersey, which was so named by reason of the abundance of Otters that bred and fed in it.
On taming otters:
Huntsman. Come, Gentlemen ! come, all! let's go to the place where we put down the Otter. Look you ! hereabout it was that she kennelled; look you ! here it was indeed; for here's her young ones, no less than five: come, let us kill them all.
Piscator. No: I pray, Sir, save me one, and I'll try if I can make her tame, as I know an ingenious gentleman in Leicestershire, Mr. Nich. Segrave, has done; who hath not only made her tame, but to catch fish, and do many other things of much pleasure.

These are copied from the Wikisource text of the 5th edition, in the order in which they appear in the original.

Those would all make great encyclopedia entries. Thanks! --Kahran042 (talk) 20:35, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

--Cherokee Jack (talk) 19:07, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

What are the new monsters supposed to do?

Once Junethack is over and SLASH'EM Extended is no longer on feature freeze, I'll add new monsters again. But I have no idea what e.g. a "gopher" is even supposed to be, and therefore, specifying what attacks, flags etc. they should have would help since otherwise I have to make something up and the end result will not be what you had in mind when thinking up those monsters :) --Bluescreenofdeath (talk) 21:11, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

I'm assuming that you're referring to the Dragon Warrior ones, so here goes.
  • Slimes, Slimebeths, and Metal Slimes are pretty much super-basic monsters, with the most notable trait being the fact that Metal Slimes have some spellcasting ability and are very evasive, but worth $#!+-tons of experience.
  • Heal Slimes and Cure Slimes are floating jellyfish-like slimes that can use healing magic.
  • The "Gophers" are small mole-like demihumans from Dragon Warrior IV that attack with shovels. The Lethal Gopher has the ability to gather power for a guaranteed critical hit on the next turn.
  • Drakees, Magidrakees, and Drakeemas are flying dragon-bat creatures, with the upper two having minor spellcasting ability.
  • Dragons, Kith Dragons, and Darth Dragons are flightless dragons in direct service to the Dragonlord, with the Kith and Darth varieties being able to breathe fire.
  • Babbles are bubbling slimes with poisonous melee attacks, and Metal Babbles are weak, but virtually impossible to hit.

As for the the woodchuck variants, they would be based on the existing woodchuck monster, but with the appropriate abilities described. If you have any specific questions, feel free to ask. --Kahran042 (talk) 13:00, 27 June 2017 (UTC)