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'''Puddingbane''' was a nickname for a -3 small iron weapon (normally a dagger, orcish dagger, or knife) that was used for [[pudding farming]] before [[NetHack 3.6.0]]. Its damage is always just 1.
 
'''Puddingbane''' was a nickname for a -3 small iron weapon (normally a dagger, orcish dagger, or knife) that was used for [[pudding farming]] before [[NetHack 3.6.0]]. Its damage is always just 1.
  
Today, the primary use of a weapon like this, is to help maintain [[pacifist]] conduct. You can also used it to kill [[Vlad the Impaler]] (as a makeshift Vladbane), if you are so inclined. An other possible use is to split a pudding pet before polymorphing it.
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Today, the primary use of a weapon like this is to help maintain [[pacifist]] conduct. Another possible use is to split a pudding pet before polymorphing it.
  
 
==History==
 
==History==
  
Historically, it was used to split [[black pudding|black]] and [[brown pudding|brown]] puddings in [[pudding farming]] (hence its name) while doing minimum damage; it could kill them, but it would split them a lot first.
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Historically, a poor iron weapon was used to split [[black pudding|black]] and [[brown pudding|brown]] puddings in [[pudding farming]] (hence its name) while doing minimum damage: it might eventually kill a pudding, but it would split a lot of them first.
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Prior to version 3.6.1, a Puddingbane could probably have been used to kill [[Vlad the Impaler]] (as a makeshift Vladbane).
  
 
==Creation==
 
==Creation==
A puddingbane can be created by [[engrave|engraving]] with it to reduce enchantment to -3. An enchantment of less than -3 is not needed for a dagger or knife, but a stronger or blunt weapon would have needed some cursed scrolls of enchant weapon.
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A puddingbane can be created by [[engrave|engraving]] with an iron weapon to reduce its enchantment to -3. An enchantment of less than -3 is not needed for a dagger or knife, but a stronger or blunt weapon would require some cursed scrolls of enchant weapon.
  
 
==Mechanics==
 
==Mechanics==
Any damage roll of 1 after [[enchantment]] will not add [[strength]], so with a -3 (or less) dagger or knife, it doesn't matter how high strength is, the damage will still always be 1. [[erosion|Corroding]] is optional.
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[[Strength]] is not added to a damage roll of 1 after [[enchantment]], so with a -3 (or less) dagger or knife, the damage will still always be 1 regardless of strength. [[erosion|Corroding]] is optional.
  
Any non-weapon iron item, such as a key, will do d2 damage (if corroded min of 1) plus any bonus to damage from [[strength]] of 16 or more or [[ring of increase damage|rings of increase damage]].
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Any non-weapon iron item, such as a key, will do d2 damage (or at least 1 if corroded), plus any bonus from [[strength]] of 16 or more or from [[ring of increase damage|rings of increase damage]]. Note that for pacifism, this is not as good as a -3 dagger or knife, which will always do 1 point of damage no matter what your damage bonus. Wielding a non-weapon item will preserve [[weaponless]] conduct, however.
  
Note that, for pacifism, this is not as good as a -3 dagger or knife that will always do 1 point of damage no matter what your damage bonus. However, it will preserve [[weaponless]] conduct.
 
 
 
==[[SLASH'EM]]==
 
==[[SLASH'EM]]==
In slashem, a puddingbane can still be used for some very limited [[pudding farming]].
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In slashem, a Puddingbane can still be used for some very limited [[pudding farming]].
  
 
==See also==
 
==See also==
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Latest revision as of 02:57, 2 July 2020

Puddingbane was a nickname for a -3 small iron weapon (normally a dagger, orcish dagger, or knife) that was used for pudding farming before NetHack 3.6.0. Its damage is always just 1.

Today, the primary use of a weapon like this is to help maintain pacifist conduct. Another possible use is to split a pudding pet before polymorphing it.

History

Historically, a poor iron weapon was used to split black and brown puddings in pudding farming (hence its name) while doing minimum damage: it might eventually kill a pudding, but it would split a lot of them first.

Prior to version 3.6.1, a Puddingbane could probably have been used to kill Vlad the Impaler (as a makeshift Vladbane).

Creation

A puddingbane can be created by engraving with an iron weapon to reduce its enchantment to -3. An enchantment of less than -3 is not needed for a dagger or knife, but a stronger or blunt weapon would require some cursed scrolls of enchant weapon.

Mechanics

Strength is not added to a damage roll of 1 after enchantment, so with a -3 (or less) dagger or knife, the damage will still always be 1 regardless of strength. Corroding is optional.

Any non-weapon iron item, such as a key, will do d2 damage (or at least 1 if corroded), plus any bonus from strength of 16 or more or from rings of increase damage. Note that for pacifism, this is not as good as a -3 dagger or knife, which will always do 1 point of damage no matter what your damage bonus. Wielding a non-weapon item will preserve weaponless conduct, however.

SLASH'EM

In slashem, a Puddingbane can still be used for some very limited pudding farming.

See also