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How fast are the various demons typically, can we have a comparison table? I think Orcus has the major advantage that he frees up Asmodeus for bribing, and is easy to reach from the level below. Thus Orcus might be overall faster than Asmodeus, even if Asmodeus "feels" quicker at the actual job. --[[User:Tjr|Tjr]] 19:25, 11 June 2011 (UTC) | How fast are the various demons typically, can we have a comparison table? I think Orcus has the major advantage that he frees up Asmodeus for bribing, and is easy to reach from the level below. Thus Orcus might be overall faster than Asmodeus, even if Asmodeus "feels" quicker at the actual job. --[[User:Tjr|Tjr]] 19:25, 11 June 2011 (UTC) | ||
| + | :But Orcus is also a high-level spellcaster - it seems like getting rid of all the nasties he will invariably summon probably would add a fair bit of time, if only because they could block your way. Not to mention the constant need for Elbereth/scare monster to prevent item cursing and psi bolts. And since I'm guessing most speedrunning characters don't have great AC, it seems some of the nasties could be a real threat. | ||
| + | :As for how fast the various demons are, that should directly correlate to their average damage output, accounting for the high priest's AC (which should be around 3 or 4 at the lowest). Yeenoghu should be a little faster than Asmodeus, although getting him requires either luck dancing with chaotic demons or same-race sacrifice (a bad idea for non-chaotics, of course). -[[User:Ion frigate|Ion frigate]] 20:27, 11 June 2011 (UTC) | ||
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phasing
also, the dividing line between the two halves of the level cannot be phased through by polyself into a xorn or earth elemental.
- This isn't quite true: you can phase through the top row of the map. -Tjr 06:06, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
Amulet delivery service
How fast are the various demons typically, can we have a comparison table? I think Orcus has the major advantage that he frees up Asmodeus for bribing, and is easy to reach from the level below. Thus Orcus might be overall faster than Asmodeus, even if Asmodeus "feels" quicker at the actual job. --Tjr 19:25, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- But Orcus is also a high-level spellcaster - it seems like getting rid of all the nasties he will invariably summon probably would add a fair bit of time, if only because they could block your way. Not to mention the constant need for Elbereth/scare monster to prevent item cursing and psi bolts. And since I'm guessing most speedrunning characters don't have great AC, it seems some of the nasties could be a real threat.
- As for how fast the various demons are, that should directly correlate to their average damage output, accounting for the high priest's AC (which should be around 3 or 4 at the lowest). Yeenoghu should be a little faster than Asmodeus, although getting him requires either luck dancing with chaotic demons or same-race sacrifice (a bad idea for non-chaotics, of course). -Ion frigate 20:27, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
