Talk:Water demon

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Will zapping a wand of cold at a water demon kill him instantly? --Anonymous

No, not necessarily; a water demon is base level 8, so will have 8d8 hit points (average 36hp). A wand of cold will do 9d6 damage against them, as they are not cold resistant but fire resistant, which increases the damage done; that's an average of 31.5 damage. So, on average it will take two shots, although of course one beam can hit the demon twice if you bounce it off a wall. -Ion frigate 17:10, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
I think Anonymous was considering turning him to an ice statue (a variation of stoning?). More likely, you're lucky a wand of cold doesn't turn it into an Ice devil. --FJH 19:47, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

"ElberethElbereth"

(Context: edit by User:Bulwersator, edit by User:Tjr)

I think saying "use ElberethElbereth" does make the text a bit strange, though it is good to point out you can engrave two Elbereths at once.

I'd prefer a less strange text over stating explicitly what to engrave directly like that, especially as Elbereth has speed notes and the text already states you can engrave two Elbereths per turn (it even specifies when not to do so). (Admittedly, the "Yes, …" would seem out of place without the Elbereth duplication before; that should probably be changed.)

Thoughts? —bcode talk | mail 08:08, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

  • I am not convinced that is it so good idea to mention here that it is possible to engrave multiple Elbereths, but phrasing it as "engrave ElberethElbereth" would be far better, as at least for me "use Elbereth" means "use strategy of engraving text Elbereth" and "use ElberethElbereth" means "use something called ElberethElbereth" what is a bit confusing Bulwersator (talk) 08:45, 25 May 2013 (UTC)