Pudding farming

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Example of a pudding farm in Minetown.

Pudding farming involves finding a black pudding (or occasionally brown pudding) and dividing it repeatedly before killing any of the puddings. Players do this to generate large numbers of death drops and corpses (for sacrifice); expert pudding farmers can actually fill entire levels with the divided puddings and obtain several hundred pages of items from the result. Farming is sometimes called "divide & conquer" or "divide & ascend" tactic.

Conduct considerations

Creating a large number of puddings does not in itself violate any conducts. Some activities related to pudding farming do, however:

  • In order to get death drops from puddings, you have to kill them yourself. This violates pacifist conduct, and means most pacifists cannot benefit much from pudding farming.
  • Eating brown puddings violates vegan conduct. Eating black puddings violates both vegan and vegetarian conduct.
  • Sacrificing the puddings obviously violates atheist conduct.

Pudding farming is slow

Pudding farming is a slow process, especially at the start. The wielding of a weapon that deals any significant amount of damage tends to kill the puddings faster than they can divide, as divided puddings have half the HP of the original. Pudding farmers prefer weapons that deal low damage (or even non-weapon iron items) when splitting puddings. A weapon used in this manner is often named a "Puddingbane". A typical Puddingbane has its enchantment reduced to -3 from engraving and is thoroughly corroded by the black puddings themselves.

Critics decry the act as scumming because it allows one to (relatively) quickly obtain all of the possible benefits of sacrifices and causing items that were normally extremely rare to be common. For example, amulets of life saving could become as common as the player would like them to be.

Tips

  • Farm over an altar, the corpses can be sacrificed without moving them.
  • Consider naming puddings. This will cause them to form separate piles which is especially important if some of the puddings are too old to be sacrificed.
  • The ideal spot is a level with an altar and a sink.
  • Since the ideal isn't always found, you can also transport puddings:
    • Lead or split them onto holes, if there is a lower altar. Monsters learn about traps, so you will have split off a new pudding before it will fall down easily again.
    • Carry a corpse to your target level and zap undead turning at it.
    • Tame one, take it anywhere in the dungeon, then un-tame it at a nearby trap.
    • Polyself into a black pudding near the altar, have a monster melee you with an iron weapon, and untame the split-off pet.
  • Use Elbereth squares (ideally with the word burned) to control Pudding movement.
  • Farm as a master mind flayer. They deal little damage to the mindless puddings, and kill intruders quickly.
  • Don't extinct puddings - the remaining ones then will no longer split.[1]
  • If you only need one item class, farm in the appropriate place: Gehennom for weapons, armor, tools, gems, wands, rings, amulets; the rogue level for food, potions, scrolls; and the rest of the dungeons for spellbooks.
  • Two-weapon -3 iron junk with a +10 long sword.

Intention of the DevTeam?

Some in RGRN have requested that the DevTeam put some cap against the process of pudding farming. There are a few different ways that this might be done; for example the RGRN thread Is Nethack too easy? (spoilers) from January 2006. Ideas included having puddings become more powerful as you kill them, preventing cloned puddings from dropping corpses and items, and forcing pudding division to count for extinction.

Pudding farming is not a modern invention; this post from 1993 talks about farming brown puddings. Several NetHack versions later, the game still allows pudding farms.

At 16 October 2006, the Shrewd Dude posted a guide, How to Raise the Perfect Pudding. In 13 years, players have invented many strategies for more effective pudding farms, but they have also become bored. Jove stated in reply, "The DevTeam has arranged an automatic and savage punishment for pudding farming. It's called pudding farming."

Perhaps the DevTeam decided to keep pudding farming as a nod to multiconduct players or to heros who have lost everything to a blunder.

Puddingtas' Example

Puddingtas the Necromancer St:18/53 Dx:18 Co:18 In:18 Wi:18 Ch:13 Chaotic Dlvl:18 $:0 HP:290(290) Pw:307(307) AC:-30 Exp:23 T:49419

SLASH'EM

Pudding farming in SLASH'EM is a lot less productive than in Vanilla, reducing its use and/or scumming ability greatly. First, the puddings will never drop items[2], so they can only be used for their corpses. Getting resistances, sacrifice gifts and prayer rewards is still a big help, however. Thus, brown puddings are actually a viable alternative their black cousins, since they are considerably safer, and provide the same benefits. A brown pudding farm will require more puddings to provide these, however, since they do not always drop corpses and have a lower chance to grant intrinsics. Also note that since your god will often send you minions: you must deal with those, or else have your entire crop of pudding killed (tip: put on a ring of aggravate monster and hit it with your Puddingbane until it untames). Thus, while it might be useful for sacrifice gifts and resistances, pudding farming is no longer potentially game-breaking, as it is in vanilla.

Remember that in SLASH'EM, corpses will sometimes be overgrown by molds, including lichens. So, after you've farmed all you want for resistances and sacrifice gifts, you may continue farming for a non-rotting food supply.

A brown pudding farm


References

  1. makemon.c in NetHack 3.4.3, line 679
  2. Strangely enough, all monsters with no hands will never have death drops in SLASH'EM, see SLASH'EM 0.0.7E7F2/mon.c#line2095