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I'm totally blind, and I play NetHack with a screen reader. I can generally get a good grasp of what's happening, and have gotten below Medusa's Island twice ... so I must be doing something right! :-) However, I'd like to be able to access Sokoban, so I can get the extra wands, rings, food etc (I often seem to be short on wands, in particular). Due to my use of a screen reader, I need to follow the solutions precisely, by copying them into a text editor and mapping the line/column location of each boulder with its counterpart on the NetHack window (which I found relatively easy once I got used to it). I made my first serious attempt at the puzzle tonight ... I managed to get through [[Sokoban Level 1b|level 1b]] without any problems. I got through the first section of the solution of [[sokoban Level 2a|2a]] and the first four parts of the second section without any trouble, but I had a problem with the instruction "B ll". I couldn't find a way to move to the position where I could push boulder B to the left! If I follow the given solution, boulder C is one space above boulder B, and boulder F is located immediately to the right of boulder C ... and there seems to be no way to get to the position below boulder C. Am I doing something terribly wrong, or is there an error in the solution? Is boulder F supposed to be moved down rather than up, or is it something else? While attempting to fix it up, I messed up the level even more, so there's no way to go back to that particular game. [[User:Graham87|Graham87]] 15:25, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
 
I'm totally blind, and I play NetHack with a screen reader. I can generally get a good grasp of what's happening, and have gotten below Medusa's Island twice ... so I must be doing something right! :-) However, I'd like to be able to access Sokoban, so I can get the extra wands, rings, food etc (I often seem to be short on wands, in particular). Due to my use of a screen reader, I need to follow the solutions precisely, by copying them into a text editor and mapping the line/column location of each boulder with its counterpart on the NetHack window (which I found relatively easy once I got used to it). I made my first serious attempt at the puzzle tonight ... I managed to get through [[Sokoban Level 1b|level 1b]] without any problems. I got through the first section of the solution of [[sokoban Level 2a|2a]] and the first four parts of the second section without any trouble, but I had a problem with the instruction "B ll". I couldn't find a way to move to the position where I could push boulder B to the left! If I follow the given solution, boulder C is one space above boulder B, and boulder F is located immediately to the right of boulder C ... and there seems to be no way to get to the position below boulder C. Am I doing something terribly wrong, or is there an error in the solution? Is boulder F supposed to be moved down rather than up, or is it something else? While attempting to fix it up, I messed up the level even more, so there's no way to go back to that particular game. [[User:Graham87|Graham87]] 15:25, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
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I think the solution makes sense...  yes, C is above B, and F is to the right of C.  so then there's nothing to the right of B, allowing you to push B left, correct?
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I've tried 2a several times, and I don't remember having that as a problem.  Good luck! [[User:Derekt75|Derekt75]] 17:48, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

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I'm totally blind, and I play NetHack with a screen reader. I can generally get a good grasp of what's happening, and have gotten below Medusa's Island twice ... so I must be doing something right! :-) However, I'd like to be able to access Sokoban, so I can get the extra wands, rings, food etc (I often seem to be short on wands, in particular). Due to my use of a screen reader, I need to follow the solutions precisely, by copying them into a text editor and mapping the line/column location of each boulder with its counterpart on the NetHack window (which I found relatively easy once I got used to it). I made my first serious attempt at the puzzle tonight ... I managed to get through level 1b without any problems. I got through the first section of the solution of 2a and the first four parts of the second section without any trouble, but I had a problem with the instruction "B ll". I couldn't find a way to move to the position where I could push boulder B to the left! If I follow the given solution, boulder C is one space above boulder B, and boulder F is located immediately to the right of boulder C ... and there seems to be no way to get to the position below boulder C. Am I doing something terribly wrong, or is there an error in the solution? Is boulder F supposed to be moved down rather than up, or is it something else? While attempting to fix it up, I messed up the level even more, so there's no way to go back to that particular game. Graham87 15:25, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

I think the solution makes sense... yes, C is above B, and F is to the right of C. so then there's nothing to the right of B, allowing you to push B left, correct? I've tried 2a several times, and I don't remember having that as a problem. Good luck! Derekt75 17:48, 26 May 2011 (UTC)