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1 Identification section
2 "What links here" link availability?
3 New NetHack tiles, can someone help with screenshots?
4 GetIndie.wiki listing?
5 "Large edits by new user" abuse filter is harmful
6 Ascensions per version or variety in Junethack 2023
7 Can I edit Template:Languages and Template:Languages/Lang ?
8 Interwiki entry requests
9 "Disallow empty edit summary" abuse filter
10 Regarding source references and hosting source code
11 Proposal to eliminate bare filename redirectors such as [[Dungeon.h]] , [[attrib.c]], and [[Arch.des]]

Identification section

Should pages for items include an "Identification" section?

I tend to add an explicit "Identification" section to item pages with advice for identification. However the "Identification" section I added for ring of conflict was removed, and all the relevant info was moved to "Strategy", so clearly not all of you feel the same way about this.

I think identification of items is separate from the strategy for using a particular item. A player benefits from identifying every item, even items with no strategic use, if for no other reason than to feel better about throwing them away. It also makes sense for identification to be described before strategy because a player will have to identify items before using them reliably.

Well, that's my take. Anybody else?

--Aximili (talk) 17:02, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

Actually, quick correction, I didn't add an "Identification" section to ring of conflict, I merely moved identification advice from the pre-existing "Strategy" section. --Aximili (talk) 17:05, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

I think I moved it back precisely because it just sounded like an extended strategy section more than anything. I'm not at all against the inclusion of separate sections for identification - rather, it's more that I interpret it as a section specifically for stuff like price-ID, auto-identifying, things of that nature. Informal identification CAN be and basically is part of that on paper, but with the ring of conflict, my rationale (which I'dve gladly explained had I been asked directly) was that it's also a vital part of any strategy around it, "it" being "not finding the thing and immediately dying from wear-testing it", such that it was worth noting first in that section. I'm more than willing to rewrite it more to accommodate, and I actually made a couple of edits in that direction - the larger question is more how to approach that than anything else. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 23:28, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

Makes sense, if I add new identification sections in the future I might try considering that distinction as well --Aximili (talk) 23:23, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

"What links here" link availability?

Hi. For things like fixing [this redirect] so that it does follow wiki style while not creating double redirects, and for multiple other uses, it would be very nice to have readily available (preferably via a left-hand-side menu link, under Tools) the standard wiki "what links here" special page (and the rest of the special pages, for that matter). Is there some setting I need to change for this, or is this something needing correcting by admins? Thanks! -Actual-nh (talk) 18:05, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

New NetHack tiles, can someone help with screenshots?

Hello. I just created a new set (2 sets actually) of tiles based on the default and Oryx tilesets. I called them Kinghack, they are located in the Pictographic Tiles section of the Tiles page. https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Tileset Can someone add them to the NetHack tileset screenshots (Where one can see the different tilesets in different areas of the game, wall testing, monsters, objects, etc). Or tell me how to add them to that site? http://bilious.alt.org/~paxed/nethack/nhsshot/

Thank you.--Kingeorg (talk) 00:18, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

GetIndie.wiki listing?

Would it be appropriate to submit the wiki to GetIndie.Wiki? It's a browser extension that redirects users from Fandom wikis to alternate better maintained wikis. It appears to use a manual list, and has a form for submitting suggestions. Sgeo (talk) 18:58, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

I don't see why not. It doesn't cost us anything and it might be helpful to a few new people who end up on Fandom without realizing that the community moved. The old Fandom wiki is still high-ranking on searches: "Amulet of Yendor" on Google gives the old Fandom wiki page as the top result, for example. Cathartes (talk) 21:35, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

I submitted a request to add NetHackWiki to the extension. Cathartes (talk) 22:52, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

"Large edits by new user" abuse filter is harmful

Special:AbuseFilter/10 implemented by User:Paxed currently denies all edits greater than 200 bytes in non-(talk,user talk) namespaces by new users. This was instituted in response to some page-blanking vandalism a couple of months ago. I think this is a bad idea. Imagine being a new user, and you spent a good amount of time writing some content, only to have the filter deny your edit, and there's nothing you can do about it--you lose all your work! This is an extremely bad welcome for new users.

Furthermore, it is not very useful against vandalism. Sure, it works against one specific type, but a motivated vandal can easily make <200-byte edits that still need to be reverted. There are multiple experienced users who monitor Special:RecentChanges (and #nethackwiki on IRC) on a daily basis; they can easily revert any vandalism that happens. Also, we hardly ever get any vandalism anyway.

I would suggest that a more effective way to deter vandalism is via a rate limit on edits from new users (e.g. 10 per hour per account). This will prevent a vandal from making too many edits before an admin comes to block them, while still allowing practically all good-faith new users to edit unimpeded, and having an easy remedy in case it actually is triggered by a good-faith user (just wait a bit before saving). And the probability of a rate limit being triggered scales inversely with the amount of effort involved in an edit (since it takes *time* to make a large good edit), so the amount of effort lost is less even if it is triggered. Cathartes (talk) 06:31, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Have to agree here - I've been somewhat vocal about how much of an annoyance a few of these filters are, but I think this one in particular is an active detriment. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 14:13, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

I honestly had the same thought. I just disabled the filter for now; it might be useful in a more targeted form (e.g. disallow new users from removing >5000 characters in a single edit, no limit on adding), but I don't think it's critical. -Ion frigate (talk) 14:39, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Absolutely correct. Although misbehaved people present a problem in any place, a wiki has the tools for reverting evil changes easily, immediately after being discovered. The filter, as implemented by Mister Paxed, User:Paxed, provokes more harm than gives help. It has NO PREVIOUS WARNING, and makes a new contributor lose his work. Including me, an experienced player of Nethack and some of its varieties, but new in the Nethack Wiki. Cssdixieland (talk) 17:58, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

It's gone now. I can't speak for the other admins, but for my own part I have no intention of bringing it back. -Ion frigate (talk) 23:40, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

Ascensions per version or variety in Junethack 2023

This text is a comment about the results of Junethack, not a notification related to NetHack Wiki.

The Junethack competition of 2023 has finished. This is the proportion of ascensions for each of the versions or varieties played. Eight servers have participated: one of Nethack Alt Org, one of Nethack 4, three of Gnollhack, and three of Hardfought. Hardfought servers also have few other versions available, such as NetHack version 1.3d, but they have not been included in Junethack. The list is ordered by the proportion of ascensions obtained.

Version or.............Ascensions...............Total games played......Per cent of ascensions
variety................of the hero..............in Junethack 2023.......per version or variety

NetHack 3.4.3...........23..............................575................................4
NotDNetHack..............8..............................211................................3.79
GnollHack................3...............................92................................3.26
DNetHack.................7..............................248................................2.82
SlashTHEM................2...............................99................................2.02
AceHack..................3..............................174................................1.72
NetHack4.................9..............................588................................1.53
NetHack 3.6.7...........51.............................3936................................1.3
NetHack Fourk............1...............................84................................1.19
NetHack 3.7.0...........25.............................3333................................0.75
XNetHack.................3..............................501................................0.6
EvilHack.................4..............................742................................0.54
Slash'EM.................1..............................221................................0.45
DynaHack.................1..............................358................................0.28
HackEM...................2..............................837................................0.24
GruntHack................1..............................470................................0.21
UnNetHack................2.............................1245................................0.16
NetHack 1.3d.............0...............................61................................0
SporkHack................0...............................77................................0
FIQHack..................0..............................196................................0
SpliceHack...............0.............................1630................................0

Average: 7 ascensions and 747 games per version or variety, less than 1 per cent ascended. On average, one ascension out of more than a hundred games, the others are not ascended. Dungeon games are amongst the most difficult, but they are also amongst the most addictive. A combination that seems to suggest a certain... 'masochism' amongst dungeon enthusiasts.

The table given above is reasonably well aligned on our screen, but maybe not so well on other screens, or printers, as it depends on the spacing and the character font used by each machine. If the automatic formatting executed by the wiki look gibberish, as I am afraid that it look, please look at the source by activating 'Edit'.

The table shows only the proportion of ascensions in Junethack 2023, not in other competitions, and not in the total number of games played throughout the years. It is also known in Statistical Science that samples with small numbers tend to be less reliable than samples with big numbers, therefore the table should not be taken as an absolute indication of play difficulty, especially for versions or varieties in which the number of games played, or of ascensions, has been small.

Let alone should the table be seen as indication of play 'enjoyability', a very subjective perception that varies greatly from an individual player to another. The style of a player may be rapid, playing our dungeon game almost as he would play a 'point and shoot' arcade game. The style of another player may be slow, playing almost as he would play a classic game of Chess, thinking every action and considering possibilities at every few turns. Or at every turn, in particularly difficult situations.

Turn-based dungeon games are unique in accommodating to both kinds of players, rapid and slow. One is the 'action' player who goes for muscular Barbarians attacking in melée, at close quarters. The other is the reflexive player who prefers brainy Wizards casting magical spells. In between we have Walkyrie, Ranger, Knight, Samurai, Monk, and the other rôles. Every player has some choice for him.

Of 1630 games played in SpliceHack, not even one has been ascended. FIQHack, SporkHack and NetHack version 1.3d have not been ascended either, but they have been played less than 200 times each (196, 77 and 61 times), not 1630 times. At the opposite extreme we have NetHack version 3.4.3 heading the ranking with NotDNetHack and GnollHack, each with an impressive ascension rate of between three and four per cent. Four per cent exactly, in the case of NetHack version 3.4.3.

Some other factors may account for such disparities in results, from four per cent to virtually zero ascensions. NetHack version 3.4.3 was for many years the only official version available, meaning that plenty of detail in game mechanics is known to a vast number of players. Once the Dev Team decided to take action and release NetHack versions 3.6.x (NetHack version 3.5 never was official), a number of dungeon devotees started to migrate to them, but version 3.4.3 is still very well known.

However, that explanation does not account for NotDNetHack, which is not so well known. Let alone for GnollHack, which is, besides, a recent arrival on the field and known only to a select minority of dungeon enthusiasts. GnollHack can be played off-line in classic or modern mode (permanent death or not), casual or serious commit (preserving older sessions or not), with seven levels of difficulty (damage inflicted to the hero or by the hero to monsters), but in Junethack it is assumed that all the 92 GnollHack participating games have been played in standard configuration. Then, it is difficult to think of what has made GnollHack so successful in the number of ascensions. I have myself played GnollHack a few times and I am playing it at present. It is interesting in the unique features that do not exist in any other variety, but it is not 'excessively' easy. My hero has died a few times already, and in the others I have made him exit the dungeon from first depth, with the remaining pets beside.

It may be that the exclusive features of GnollHack (including even music and speech sounds with the recorded voices of actors when playing off-line) make GnollHack singularly attractive, therefore its players pay more attention and make fewer mistakes. However, that is only a hypothesis. The true cause may be a different one, yet to be discovered.

Sources:

https://junethack.net/activity

https://junethack.net/post_tournament_statistics

A more readable presentation of the statistical table given above can be read at the GnollHack Forum:

https://community.soundmindgames.com/threads/ascensions-per-version-or-variety-in-junethack-2023.75/#post-366

Cssdixieland (talk) 02:34, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

Can I edit Template:Languages and Template:Languages/Lang ?

I want to use the new LinklessExists template in Languages/Lang. I don't anticipate changing Template:Languages but asking for that file too just in case.

Benefit: eliminates about 1400 redlinks from https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Special:WantedPages (out of about 5600 total).

Risk: might break the languages box if I do wrong. However, I'm good at rolling back, if needed.

Furey (talk) 02:23, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Do it! If anything is broken, you can always revert. You might also be able to test it in preview before you break anything by using the template in itself in a <noinclude></noinclude> section. After you edit the template, go to a few pages that use it and purge the cache (append ?action=purge to the URL) to force the page to be immediately regenerated with the updated template, and check that it's not broken. Cathartes (talk) 02:00, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Okay great! Gonna clear my plate and do this in about a day. Furey (talk) 03:35, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

First attempt failed. The language box came up blank. Reverted after six minutes. Gonna study harder and try again on another day. (Also I am timing these attempts when there are no active translator editors working.) Furey (talk) 16:08, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Interwiki entry requests

Grouping all interwiki entry-related requests here for user and admin convenience.

To give further context: below is a series of interwiki links that were slated to be dealt with after the move to MediaWiki, but it fell to the wayside for more than a decade before another user decided to draw attention to the matter. Below is a series of lists meant to expedite the process and finish what was meant to be done back in 2011.

--Umbire the Phantom (talk) 12:26, 24 June 2024 (UTC) [Original Message: 06:53, 21 June 2024 (UTC)]

Alright, that's all the interwiki stuff addressed for the moment - I'll wait a month or so before moving forward in the event Furey decides to become active again. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 17:44, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

No response from him and it's Sept. 1 - moving forward as planned, doing another scan and then marking these as resolved. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 04:10, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

Request for an admin to delete most interwiki entries starting with lowercase 'a'

https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Special:Interwiki

I recently found 3 links in NetHackWiki:policy pointing to an ad farm for Vietnamese casinos and sports gambling. They were interwiki links, and the domain had transferred to a cybersquatter.

We have 581 interwiki entries. The table has been dormant since the move from Wikia (look at the log). We can safely delete a large number of these, preventing future problems.

Round 1. I would like to request that an admin delete all interwiki entries starting with 'a', except for these 6:

a-levels, annotation, answers, anthropology, apple, architecture

These 6 are probably not used, but https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Special:Search does not let me search for "[[apple:" or "apple:" so I have to look at hits for "apple" and there are too many of them. So punt those for now.

Q: what if we delete an entry someone is using?

A: the link will show up in https://nethackwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:WantedPages&limit=5000&offset=0 . Just look for Furey:xyzzy and see how it got into the table. Basically, an interwiki reference without a table entry becomes a redlink and goes into WantedPages.

Safe to delete


Prefix	URL	Site status	Comments
abbenormal	http://www.ourpla.net/cgi-bin/pikie.cgi?$1	operational	-
abitur	http://abi_wiki.wikia.com/wiki/$1	"Not a valid community"	-
abiwiki	http://abi_wiki.wikia.com/wiki/$1	"Not a valid community"	-
absurdopedia	http://absurdopedia.net/wiki/$1	operational	russian
academicjobs	http://academicjobs.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
acadwiki	http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/autocad/wiki/$1	DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN	-
accountingwiki	http://accounting.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
acronym	http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?String=exact&Acronym=$1	operational	-
activeworlds	http://activeworlds.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
activism	http://activism.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
advogato	http://www.advogato.org/$1	redirects to an archive.org capture from 2017	-
agohwiki	http://agoh.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
aiwiki	http://www.ifi.unizh.ch/ailab/aiwiki/aiw.cgi?$1	DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN	-
alaska	http://Alaska.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
alife	http://news.alife.org/wiki/index.php?$1	DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN	-
altereco	http://altereco.wikia.com/wiki/$1	"Not a valid community"	-
althistory	http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
altscience	http://altscience.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
amazone	http://Amazone.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	portuguese
americanfederationofmusicians	http://afm.wikia.com/wiki/$1	"Not a valid community"	-
ancientcoins	http://ancientcoins.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
ancientworld	http://AncientWorld.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	russian
andstuff	http://andstuff.org/wiki.php?$1	redirects to a blog	-
anime	http://anime.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
annotationwiki	http://www.seedwiki.com/page.cfm?wikiid=368&doc=$1	This domain is available for sale!	-
aocfinland	http://www.aocfinland.net/wiki/index.php/$1	DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN	-
appropedia	http://www.appropedia.org/$1	operational	-
ar.hassa	http://ar.Hassa.wikia.com/wiki/$1	NET::ERR_CERT_COMMON_NAME_INVALID	-
arbeitslos	http://Arbeitslos.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	german
arcapedia	http://www.sasoriza.us/a/$1	DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN	-
archaeology	http://archaeology.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
argentumonline	http://ao2.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
armchair	http://armchairgm.wikia.com/$1	operational	-
armchairgm	http://armchairgm.wikia.com/$1	operational	-
armoriale	http://armoriale.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
artemisfowl	http://ArtemisFowl.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operatonal	-
arxiv	http://www.arxiv.org/abs/$1	lands on empty page	-
asheron	http://ac.wikkii.net/wiki/$1	DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN	-
ashleesimpson	http://ashleesimpson.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
asimov	http://asimov.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
aspienetwiki	http://aspie.mela.de/Wiki/index.php?title=$1	The requested URL was not found on this server.	-
astronomy	http://astronomy.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
asylum	http://Asylum.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
australiawiki	http://australia.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
avegost	http://avegost.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-

Keep these for now

unsearchable means: "foo" gives too many hits to look through. i cannot search for "foo:" or "[[foo:"


Prefix	URL	Uses	Site status	Comments
a-levels	http://a-levels.wikia.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable	"There is currently no text in this page."	-
annotation	http://bayle.stanford.edu/crit/nph-med.cgi/$1	unsearchable	DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN	-
answers	http://answers.wikia.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable	Not a valid community	-
anthropology	http://Anthropology.wikia.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable	Not a valid community	-
apple	http://techessentials.org/apple/$1	unsearchable	Opaque site, definitely not a wiki	-
architecture	http://Architecture.wikia.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable	operational	-

Furey (talk) 06:56, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Addressed. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 02:49, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Verified. Looks good to me. Furey (talk) 02:59, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

This issue has been resolved.

Request for an admin to delete most interwiki entries starting with lowercase 'b'

https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Special:Interwiki

Round 2. I would like to request that an admin delete all interwiki entries starting with 'b', except for this 1:

These 1 is probably not used, but https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Special:Search does not let me search for "[[box:" or "box:" so I have to look at hits for "box" and there are too many of them. So punt this for now.

Q: what if we delete an entry someone is using?

Furey (talk) 12:14, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Safe to delete (b)


Prefix	URL	Site status	Comments
babylon5	http://babylon5.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
babysign	http://BabySign.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
bahrain	http://bahrain.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
baltimore	http://baltimore.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
bangalore	http://Bangalore.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
battlestarwiki	http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/$1	operational	-
beijing	http://beijing.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
bemi	http://bemi.free.fr/vikio/index.php?$1	Warning: mysql_connect() [function.mysql-connect]: Access denied for user 'bemi'@'172.20.245.52' (using password: YES) in /mnt/105/sda/1/a/bemi/vikio/index.php on line 302	-
benefitswiki	http://www.benefitslink.com/cgi-bin/wiki.cgi?$1	410 - Page No Longer Available	-
berlin	http://Berlin.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	german
bestpractices	http://BestPractices.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
beyondvoting	http://beyondvoting.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
bloggingwiki	http://blogging.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
blogsome	http://blogsome.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
boppard	http://boppard.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
boston	http://Boston.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
brasilwiki	http://rio.ifi.unizh.ch/brasilienwiki/index.php/$1	DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN	-
bridgeswiki	http://c2.com/w2/bridges/$1	The requested URL was not found on this server.	-
bswiki	http://en.bswiki.com/index.php/$1	This domain is available for sale!	-
bulbapedia	http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/$1	operational	-
businessowns	http://business_owns.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
bydgoszcz	http://bydgoszcz.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	polish

Keep these for now (b)

unsearchable means: "foo" gives too many hits to look through. i cannot search for "foo:" or "[[foo:".


Prefix	URL	Uses	Site status	Comments
box	http://userboxes.wikia.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable	Not a valid community	-

Addressed - Bulbapedia is untouched per related discussions regarding Pokemon in the 'p' section. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 08:14, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

No response in more than 2 weeks - verified against the list and marking this as resolved. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 10:34, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

This issue has been resolved.

Request for an admin to delete most interwiki entries starting with lowercase 'c'

https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Special:Interwiki

Round 3. I would like to request that an admin delete all interwiki entries starting with 'c', except for these 9:

cache, cities, clubpenguin, cm, commons, community, consciousness, cpp, creatures

Most of these are probably not used, but https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Special:Search does not let me search for "[[cache:" or "cache:" so I have to look at hits for "cache" and there are too many of them. So punt these for now.

"clubpenguin" has an actual use: I found an article with a [[clubpenguin:xxx]] reference. So for now, leave it alone.

Q: what if we delete an entry someone is using?

Furey (talk) 14:41, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Safe to delete (c)


Prefix	URL	Site status	Comments
c2find	http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?FindPage&value=$1	operational	-
calgary	http://calgary.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
camarilarequiem	http://camarilarequiem.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
camcorder	http://Camcorder.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
cancerhelp	http://cancer.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
cantonese	http://cantonese.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	chinese
castlemarrach	http://Marrach.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
casualty	http://casualty.shoutwiki.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
celebrity	http://celebrity.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
cellphones	http://cell.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
censorship	http://censorship.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
charlesmunch	http://charlesmunch.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
chdk	http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
chej	http://esperanto.blahus.cz/cxej/vikio/index.php/$1	The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later.	-
chw	http://chw.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
ciscavate	http://ciscavate.org/index.php/$1	DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN	-
cliki	http://ww.telent.net/cliki/$1	Page not found	-
cmwiki	http://www.ourpla.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?$1	No page found	-
codersbase	http://www.codersbase.com/$1	NET::ERR_CERT_COMMON_NAME_INVALID	-
collegehockey	http://chw.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
comedy	http://comedy.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
commdesign	http://commdesign.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
computervision	http://computervision.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
concordwiki	http://Concord.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
conferencewiki	http://conferences.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
conlang	http://conlang.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
connectivity	http://connectivity.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
conworld	http://conworld.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
corpknowpedia	http://corpknowpedia.org/wiki/index.php/$1	DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN	-
craftedbycarol	http://www.CraftedByCarol.com/wiki/$1	Not Found [CFN #0005]	-
creationmatters	http://www.ourpla.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?$1	No page found	-
cyclisme	http://cyclisme.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-

Keep these for now (c)


Prefix	URL	Uses	Site status	Comments
cache	http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:$1	unsearchable	operational	-
cities	http://cities.wikia.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable	operational	-
clubpenguin	http://clubpenguinwiki.info/wiki/$1	1	DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN	we have a [[clubpenguin:xxx]] link!
cm	http://cm.wikia.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable	operational	-
commons	http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/$1	unsearchable	operational	-
community	http://community.wikia.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable	operational	-
consciousness	http://teadvus.inspiral.org/	unsearchable	DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN	note the lack of $1
cpp	http://cpp.wikia.com/	unsearchable	operational	note the lack of $1
creatures	http://creatures.wikia.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable	operational	-

Addressed. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 15:33, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

No response for all of August - verified against the list and marking as resolved. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 11:52, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

This issue has been resolved.

Request for an admin to delete most interwiki entries starting with lowercase 'd'

Round 4. I would like to request that an admin delete all interwiki entries starting with 'd', except for these 7:

delphi, dictionary, diy, dnd, documentation, doom, désencyclopédie

Most of these are probably not used, but https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Special:Search does not let me search for "[[delphi:" or "delphi:" so I have to look at hits for "delphi" and there are too many of them. So punt these for now.

"dnd" has 2 actual uses: articles with [[dnd:xxx]] references. So for now, leave it alone.

"désencyclopédie" has non-ASCII characters so I do not trust mediawiki search and interwiki prefix matching to work the same way.

Q: what if we delete an entry someone is using?

Furey (talk) 17:45, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Safe to delete (d)


Prefix	URL	Site status	Comments
datamining	http://datamining.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
datsun510	http://Datsun510.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
dc database	http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
dcanimated	http://dcanimated.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
dcdatabase	http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
debatewiki	http://debate.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
dejanews	http://www.deja.com/=dnc/getdoc.xp?AN=$1	operational	-
demokraatia	http://wiki.demokraatia.ee/	Best Text Blast Service	note the lack of $1
desencyclopedie	http://desencyclopedie.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
detroit	http://detroit.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
deviousmud	http://deviousmud.shoutwiki.com/wiki/$1	No such wiki	-
dfw	http://dfw.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
diablowiki	http://diablo.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
discgolf	http://discgolf.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
disinfopedia	http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=$1	DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN	-
disney	http://Disney.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
diveintoosx	http://diveintoosx.org/$1	DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN	-
dns	http://dns.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
docbook	http://wiki.docbook.org/topic/$1	operational	-
doctorwho	http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
doi	http://dx.doi.org/$1	operational	-
dolphinwiki	http://www.object-arts.com/wiki/html/Dolphin/$1	ERR_TIMED_OUT	-
doom_wiki	http://doom.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
downsyndrome	http://downsyndrome.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
dpl	http://semeb.com/dpldemo/index.php?title=$1	410 Gone	-
drumcorpswiki	http://www.drumcorpswiki.com/index.php/$1	operational	-
dvdlab	http://dvdlab.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
dwjwiki	http://www.suberic.net/cgi-bin/dwj/wiki.cgi?$1	operational	-
dyslexia	http://dyslexia.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
dystopia	http://dystopia.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-

Keep these for now (d)


Prefix	URL	Uses	Site status	Comments
delphi	http://delphi.wikia.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable	operational	-
dictionary	http://www.dict.org/bin/Dict?Database=&Form=Dict1&Strategy=&Query=$1	unsearchable	operational	-
diy	http://diy.wikia.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable	operational	-
dnd	http://dandwiki.com/wiki/$1	2	operational	we have 2 [[dnd:xxx]] links!
documentation	http://documentation.wikia.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable	operational	-
doom	http://doom.wikia.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable	operational	-
désencyclopédie	http://desencyclopedie.wikia.com/wiki/$1	0?	Not a valid community	-

Addressed. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 16:05, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

No response for all of August - verified against the list and marking as resolved. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 11:52, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

This issue has been resolved.

Request for an admin to delete most interwiki entries starting with lowercase 'e'

Round 5. I would like to request that an admin delete all interwiki entries starting with 'e', except for these 6:

ec^ei, ed, emacswiki, en.cpp, events, eĉei

Most of these exceptions are probably not used, but https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Special:Search does not let me search for "[[ed:" or "ed:" so I have to look at hits for "ed" and there are too many of them. So punt these for now.

"emacswiki" has 2 actual uses: articles with [[emacswiki:xxx]] references. So for now, leave it alone.

"eĉei" has non-ASCII characters so I do not trust mediawiki search and interwiki prefix matching to work the same way.

Q: what if we delete an entry someone is using?

Furey (talk) 22:20, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Safe to delete (e)


Prefix	URL	Site status	Comments
eagleparty	http://eagleparty.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
eaglesfans	http://eaglesfans.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
eberron	http://Eberron.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
ecei	http://www.ikso.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?$1	Not Found	-
echei	http://www.ikso.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?$1	Not Found	-
ecoreality	http://www.EcoReality.org/wiki/$1	Under Construction	-
ecovillage	http://ecovillage.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
ecxei	http://www.ikso.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?$1	Not Found	-
education	http://education.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
efnetceewiki	http://purl.net/wiki/c/$1	Page not found on this site.	-
efnetcppwiki	http://purl.net/wiki/cpp/$1	Page not found on this site.	-
efnetpythonwiki	http://purl.net/wiki/python/$1	Page not found on this site.	-
efnetxmlwiki	http://purl.net/wiki/xml/$1	An error has been encountered in accessing this page.	-
efrat	http://Efrat.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
eisenbahn	http://eisenbahn.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	german
elderscrollscs	http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/$1	This wiki is currently down for backend maintenance.	-
elibre	http://enciclopedia.us.es/index.php/$1	operational	spanish
eljwiki	http://elj.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php/$1	An error has been encountered in accessing this page.	-
emailwiki	http://Email.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
en.anime	http://anime.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
en.hassa	http://en.Hassa.wikia.com/wiki/$1	NET::ERR_CERT_COMMON_NAME_INVALID	-
en.linuxwikia	http://en.Linux.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
en.linuxwikicity	http://en.Linux.wikicities.com/wiki/$1	fandom.com (main page)	-
en.miqra	http://en.miqra.wikia.com/wiki/$1	NET::ERR_CERT_COMMON_NAME_INVALID	-
en.phpbb	http://en.phpbb.wikia.com/wiki/$1	NET::ERR_CERT_COMMON_NAME_INVALID	-
en.tibia	http://en.tibia.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
en.townn-titles	http://en.townn-titles.wikia.com/wiki/$1	NET::ERR_CERT_COMMON_NAME_INVALID	-
enciclopedialibre	http://enciclopedia.us.es/index.php/$1	operational	spanish
enmusic	http://en.music.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
eokulturcentro	http://esperanto.toulouse.free.fr/wakka.php?wiki=$1	blank page	-
esclarion	http://es.clarion.wikia.com/wiki/$1	NET::ERR_CERT_COMMON_NAME_INVALID	-
esperanto	http://esperanto.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
essences	http://Essences.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
everquest2	http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
evolutionarybusiness	http://EvolutionaryBusiness.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
evowiki	http://www.evowiki.org/index.php/$1	File not found.	-
expressways	http://expressways.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-

Keep these for now (e)


Prefix	URL	Uses	Site status	Comments
ec^ei	http://www.ikso.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?$1	unsearchable	Not Found	special char in prefix
ed	http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/$1	unsearchable	DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN	-
emacswiki	http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?$1	2	operational	we have 2 [[emacswiki:xxx]] links!
en.cpp	http://en.cpp.wikia.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable	operational	-
events	http://Events.wikia.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable	Not a valid community	-
eĉei	http://www.ikso.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?$1	unsearchable	Not Found	special char in prefix

Addressed. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 16:27, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

No response for all of August - verified against the list and marking as resolved. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 11:52, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

This issue has been resolved.

Request for an admin to delete most interwiki entries starting with lowercase 'f'

Round 6. I would like to request that an admin delete all interwiki entries starting with 'f', except for these 5:

fiction, fr.be, fr.org, freebsd, future

Most of these exceptions are probably not used, but https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Special:Search does not let me search for "[[fiction:" or "fiction:" so I have to look at hits for "fiction" and there are too many of them. So punt these for now.

Q: what if we delete an entry someone is using?

Furey (talk) 12:03, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Safe to delete (f)


Prefix	URL	Site status	Comments
facialcleansingproducts	http://facialcleansingproducts.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
fadingsuns	http://FadingSuns.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
familyguy	http://FamilyGuy.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
fastribe	http://fsatribe.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
featuregarden	http://FeatureGarden.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
fet	http://www.egnu.org/thelema/index.php/$1	Not Found	-
feuilleton	http://feuilleton.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
fi.marveldatabase	http://fi.marveldatabase.com/$1	operational	finnish
filmwiki	http://film.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	german
finalempire	http://final-empire.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?$1	Could not create /home/groups/f/fi/final-empire/wiki: No such file or directory	-
finalfantasy	http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
fineart	http://Fineart.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
firefly	http://firefly.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
firstwiki	http://firstwiki.org/index.php/$1	operational	-
fisherymanagement	http://fisherymanagement.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
flink	http://flink.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	norwegian
foldoc	http://foldoc.org/?$1	operational	-
footy	http://footy.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
foundationgame	http://foundation.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
foxwiki	http://fox.wikis.com/wc.dll?Wiki~$1	The FoxPro Wiki is down, on purpose	-
fr.miqra	http://fr.miqra.wikia.com/wiki/$1	NET::ERR_CERT_COMMON_NAME_INVALID	-
freebasic	http://FreeBASIC.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
freebsdman	http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/man.cgi?apropos=1&query=$1	operational	-
fruawiki	http://frua.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
fundraising	http://Fundraising.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
furry	http://furry.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-

Keep these for now (f)


Prefix	URL	Uses	Site status	Comments
fiction	http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable	operational	-
fr.be	http://fr.wikinations.be/$1	unsearchable	operational	-
fr.org	http://fr.wikinations.org/$1	unsearchable	DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN	-
freebsd	http://freebsd.wikia.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable	Not a valid community	-
future	http://future.wikia.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable	operational	-

Addressed. I'm inclined to delete fr.be and fr.org, since neither of the URLs specified are operational anymore and give me a DNS error - I've found an alternative wiki for freebsd and updated accordingly. Separately, I'm also thinking we restore finalfantasy as an entry after you verify all of this: there is an independent wiki, but it's heavily lacking in info and the ~~Wikia~~ Fandom™ Wiki is much more complete, since it benefited from having a p. solid userbase in the times before the ~~Wikia~~ Fandom™ farm of wikis went bad. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 09:15, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

No response in more than 2 weeks - verified against the list and marking this as resolved. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 10:34, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

This issue has been resolved.

Request for an admin to delete most interwiki entries starting with lowercase 'g'

Round 7. I would like to request that an admin delete all interwiki entries starting with 'g', except for these 6:

gameinfo, games, gentoo-wiki, google, grammar, gta

Most of these exceptions are probably not used, but https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Special:Search does not let me search for "[[games:" or "games:" so I have to look at hits for "games" and there are too many of them. So keep these for now.

"gameinfo" and "gta" have known live uses. "gameinfo" is complicated and I am working on a task for that. So keep these for now.

Q: what if we delete an entry someone is using?

Safe to delete (g)


Prefix	URL	Site statu	Comments
gamefaqs	http://GameFAQs.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
gamemaker	http://gamemaker.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
gamewiki	http://gamewiki.org/wiki/index.php/$1	Connection timed out	-
garoumush	http://GarouMUSH.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
gausswiki	http://gauss.ffii.org/$1	Not Found	-
geck	http://geck.bethsoft.com/index.php/$1	This wiki is currently down for backend maintenance.	-
gej	http://www.esperanto.de/cgi-bin/aktivikio/wiki.pl?$1	Server Error 404 Page Not Found	-
genealogy	http://genealogy.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
gknowledge	http://gknowledge.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
globalization	http://globalization.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
globalvoices	http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/dyn/globalvoices/wiki/$1	404 Page Cannot Be Found	-
gmailwiki	http://www.gmailwiki.com/index.php/$1	404 Not Found	-
googlegroups	http://groups.google.com/groups?q=$1	operational	-
googlewiki	http://google.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
gotamac	http://www.got-a-mac.org/$1	operational	swedish
granada	http://granada.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
grapeswiki	http://grapes.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
greencheese	http://www.greencheese.org/$1	(sketchy site with a popup asking me to install a browser extension)	-
grixml	http://grixml.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
guilds	http://guilds.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
guildwiki	http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
gw2w	http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
gww	http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/$1	operational	-

Keep these for now (g)


Prefix	URL	Uses	Site status	Comments
gameinfo	http://gameinfo.wikia.com/wiki/$1	several	Not a valid community	we have several [[gameinfo:xxx]] links!
games	http://games.wikia.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable	operational	-
gentoo-wiki	http://gentoo-wiki.com/$1	unsearchable	404 Not Found	-
google	http://www.google.com/search?q=$1	unsearchable	operational	how ironic
grammar	http://grammar.wikia.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable	operational	-
gta	http://www.grandtheftwiki.com/$1	1	operational	we have 1 [[gta:xxx]] link!

Addressed. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 09:20, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

No response in more than 2 weeks - verified against the list and marking this as resolved. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 10:34, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

This issue has been resolved.

Request for an admin to delete most interwiki entries starting with lowercase 'h'

Round 8. I would like to request that an admin delete all interwiki entries starting with 'h', except for this 1:

homepage

This exception is probably not used, but https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Special:Search does not let me search for "[[homepage:" or "homepage:" so I have to look at hits for "homepage" and there are too many of them. So keep this for now.

Q: what if we delete an entry someone is using?

Safe to delete (h)


Prefix	URL	Site statu	Comments
hammondwiki	http://www.dairiki.org/HammondWiki/$1	operational	-
haribeau	http://wiki.haribeau.de/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?$1	Your server is running PHP version 5.6.40-nmm8 but WordPress 6.3.4 requires at least 7.0.0.	-
he.miqra	http://he.miqra.wikia.com/wiki/$1	NET::ERR_CERT_COMMON_NAME_INVALID	-
helpwiki	http://help.wikia.com/wiki/Help:$1	This wiki has joined forces with another wiki on the Fandom network. The wiki has been archived and we ask that readers and editors move to the now combined wiki. -
hembygd	http://Hembygd.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
heraldry	http://Heraldry.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
herzkinderwiki	http://www.herzkinderinfo.de/Mediawiki/index.php/$1	Charities where You Can Sponsor a Child	-
hewikisource	http://he.wikisource.org/wiki/$1	operational	hebrew
highlandgames	http://highlandgames.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
historywiki	http://History.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
homeschooling	http://homeschooling.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
hongkong	http://hongkong.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
horrorfilms	http://Horrormovies.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
hrwiki	http://www.hrwiki.org/index.php/$1	operational	-
htmlwiki	http://HTML.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
hundewiki	http://hunde.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	german
hypertexttheory	http://Hypertext.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-

Keep this for now (h)


Prefix	URL	Uses	Site status	Comments
homepage	http://www.wikia.com/$1	unsearchable	operational	-

Addressed. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 08:44, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

No response in more than 2 weeks - verified against the list and marking this as resolved. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 10:34, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

This issue has been resolved.

Request for an admin to delete most interwiki entries starting with lowercase 'i'

Round 9. I would like to request that an admin delete all interwiki entries starting with 'i', except for these 3:

ib, india, inferno

Most of these exceptions are probably not used, but https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Special:Search does not let me search for "[[ib:" or "ib:" so I have to look at hits for "ib" and there are too many of them. So keep these for now.

Q: what if we delete an entry someone is using?

Safe to delete (i)


Prefix	URL	Site status	Comments
iaudio	http://iaudio.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
iawiki	http://www.IAwiki.net/$1	DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN	-
idokorea	http://IdoKorea.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	korea
imdb	http://us.imdb.com/Title?$1	NET::ERR_CERT_COMMON_NAME_INVALID	-
incubator	http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/$1	operational	-
industrialengineering	http://IndustrialEngineering.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
infosecpedia	http://www.infosecpedia.org/pedia/index.php/$1	Connection timed out Error code 522	-
insurancewiki	http://insurance.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
inteq	http://inteq.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	portuguese
internationalbaccalaureate	http://ib.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
internshipswiki	http://internships.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
intuite	http://intuite.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	french
inuyasha	http://InuYasha.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
inventions	http://inventions.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
investments	http://investments.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
investwiki	http://investwiki.ru/wiki/index.php?title=$1	DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN	-
ipodwiki	http://ipod.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
issuepedia	http://www.issuepedia.org/$1	DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN	-
italia	http://Italia.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-

Keep these for now (i)


Prefix	URL	Uses	Site status	Comments
ib	http://ib.frath.net/w/$1	unsearchable	operational	-
india	http://india.wikia.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable	operational	-
inferno	http://inferno.wikia.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable	operational	-

Addressed. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 09:21, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

No response in more than 2 weeks - verified against the list and marking this as resolved. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 10:34, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

This issue has been resolved.

Request for an admin to delete all interwiki entries starting with lowercase 'j'

Round 10. I would like to request that an admin delete all interwiki entries starting with 'j'.

There are no exceptions.

Q: what if we delete an entry someone is using?

Safe to delete (j)


Prefix	URL	Site status	Comments
japanwiki	http://japan.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
jargonfile	http://sunir.org/apps/meta.pl?wiki=JargonFile&redirect=$1	Internal Server Error	-
jefo	http://www.esperanto-jeunes.org/vikio/index.php?$1	browser hang	-
jerseycity	http://jc.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
jiniwiki	http://www.cdegroot.com/cgi-bin/jini?$1	404 Page not found	-
joinme	http://JoinMe.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
journalism	http://journalism.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
jspwiki	http://www.jspwiki.org/wiki/$1	operational	-
judaism	http://Judaism.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
judgedredd	http://JudgeDredd.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-

Keep nothing (j)

There are no interwiki entries to keep starting with lowercase 'j'.

Addressed. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 14:05, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Verified. Looks good to me. Furey (talk) 14:18, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

This issue has been resolved.

Request for an admin to delete all interwiki entries starting with lowercase 'k'

Round 11. I would like to request that an admin delete all interwiki entries starting with 'k'.

There are no exceptions.

Q: what if we delete an entry someone is using?

Safe to delete (k)


Prefix	URL	Site status	Comments
kabbalah	http://Kabbalah.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
keene	http://keene.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
keiki	http://kei.ki/en/$1	DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN	-
kerala	Not a valid community	Not a valid community	-
kerimwiki	http://wiki.oxus.net/$1	DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN	-
kmwiki	http://kmwiki.wikispaces.com/$1	DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN	-
knowhow	http://www2.iro.umontreal.ca/~paquetse/cgi-bin/wiki.cgi?$1	DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN	-
korea	http://korea.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
kulturwiki	http://feuilleton.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-

Keep nothing (k)

There are no interwiki entries to keep starting with lowercase 'k'.

Addressed. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 11:17, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Verified. Looks good to me. Furey (talk) 12:02, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

This issue has been resolved.

Request for an admin to delete most interwiki entries starting with lowercase 'l'

Round 12. I would like to request that an admin delete all interwiki entries starting with 'l', except for these 2:

legal, logic

Most of these exceptions are probably not used, but https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Special:Search does not let me search for "[[legal:" or "legal:" so I have to look at hits for "legal" and there are too many of them. So keep these for now.

Q: what if we delete an entry someone is using?

Safe to delete (l)


Prefix	URL	Site status	Comments
l5r	http://l5r.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
laff	http://laff.tixen.net/index.php/$1	DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN	-
lambengolmor	http://lambengolmor.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
lanifexwiki	http://opt.lanifex.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?$1	(sketchy site with a popup asking me to install a browser extension)	(specially deleted already.) use protection if you visit this url.
lasvegas	http://lasvegas.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
lasvegaswiki	http://wiki.gmnow.com/index.php/$1	DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN	-
lawandorder	http://LawandOrder.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
liberaltalk	http://LiberalTalkRadio.com/$1	The domain name liberaltalkradio.com is for sale!	-
libertarian	http://libertarian.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
libraries	http://libraries.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
linuxstudiowiki	http://linuxstudio.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
linuxwiki	http://linuxwiki.de/$1	operational	german
linuxwikia	http://Linux.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
linuxwikicity	http://Linux.wikicities.com/wiki/$1	main page of fandom.com	-
litcrit	http://litcrit.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
lojban	http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=$1	operational	-
lomac	http://lomac.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
losangeles	http://losangeles.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
lostsoulswiki	http://lostsouls.org/wiki/$1	operational	-
lotr	http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
lqwiki	http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/$1	operational	-
lucid	http://Lucid.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
lug	http://lug.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
lugkr	http://lug-kr.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/lugwiki.pl?$1	Could not create /home/groups/l/lu/lug-kr/wiki: No such file or directory	-
luxembourg	http://luxembourg.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
lyricwiki	http://lyrics.wikia.com/$1	Not a valid community	-

Keep these for now (l)


Prefix	URL	Uses	Site status	Comments
legal	http://legal.wikia.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable	operational	-
logic	http://logic.wikia.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable	operational	-

Addressed, with a note that I plan to re-establish the lotr entry using Tolkien Gateway as an alternative to ~~Wikia~~ Fandom™, and add a new entry "lspace" for the Discworld & Terry Pratchett wiki as well. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 09:43, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

No response in more than 2 weeks - verified against the list and marking this as resolved. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 10:34, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

This issue has been resolved.

Request for an admin to delete many interwiki entries starting with lowercase 'm'

Round 13. I would like to request that an admin delete all interwiki entries starting with 'm', except for these 17:

m, mac, mail, manual, matrix, me, meatball, mediawikiwiki, mediazilla, medicine, memoryalpha, metawiki, metawikimedia, metawikipedia, military, money, mw

Many of these exceptions are probably not used, but https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Special:Search does not let me search for "[[m:" or "m:" so I have to look at hits for "m" and there are too many of them. So keep these for now.

Q: what if we delete an entry someone is using?

Safe to delete (m)


Prefix	URL	Site status	Comments
manga	http://en.manga.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
mariowiki	http://www.mariowiki.com/$1	operational	-
marvel database	http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
marveldatabase	http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
mathsongswiki	http://SeedWiki.com/page.cfm?wikiid=237&doc=$1	seedwiki.com This domain is available for sale!	-
metareciclagem	http://www.metareciclagem.com.br/wiki/index.php/$1	Error establishing a database connection	-
metaweb	http://www.metaweb.com/wiki/wiki.phtml?title=$1	404. That’s an error.	-
metodolcient	http://metodolcient.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
mexique	http://mexique.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
minneapolis	http://minneapolis.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
miqra	http://miqra.wikia.com/	Not a valid community	note the lack of $1
mittelalter	http://Mittelalter.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	german
moinmoin	http://purl.net/wiki/moin/$1	operational	-
morrowind	http://morrowind.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
motorsport	http://motorsport.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
mozcom	http://mozilla.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
mozillawiki	http://wiki.mozilla.org/index.php/$1	operational	-
mozillazinekb	http://kb.mozillazine.org/$1	operational	-
moztwwiki	http://wiki.moztw.org/index.php/$1	operational	chinese
mozwiki	http://mozwiki.moznetwork.org/index.php/$1	DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN	-
musicplayerdaemon	http://mpd.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
muweb	http://www.dunstable.com/scripts/MuWebWeb?$1	dunstable.com This domain is available for sale!	-

Keep these for now (m)


Prefix	URL	Uses	Site status	Comments
m	http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/$1	unsearchable	operational	-
mac	http://mac.wikia.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable	operational	-
mail	http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/$1	unsearchable	Not Found	-
manual	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$1	unsearchable	operational	-
matrix	http://matrix.wikia.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable	operational	-
me	http://me.wikicities.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable	main page of fandom.com	-
meatball	https://www.usemod.org/cgi-bin/mb.pl?$1	unsearchable, 4+ known uses	operational	we have 4+ [[meatball:xxx]] links!
mediawikiwiki	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/$1	7	operational	we have 7+ [[mediawikiwiki:xxx]] links!
mediazilla	https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/$1	2	operational	we have 2 [[mediazilla:xxx]] links!
medicine	http://medicine.wikia.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable	Not a valid community	-
memoryalpha	http://www.memory-alpha.org/en/index.php/$1	1	ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED	we have 1 [[memoryalpha:xxx]] link!
metawiki	http://sunir.org/apps/meta.pl?$1	1	Internal Server Error	we have 1 [[metawiki:xxx]] link!
metawikimedia	http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/$1	4	operational	we have 4 [[metawikimedia:xxx]] links!
metawikipedia	http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/$1	5	operational	we have 5 [[metawikipedia:xxx]] links!
military	http://military.wikia.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable	operational	-
money	http://money.wikia.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable	Not a valid community	-
mw	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/$1	unsearchable, 5+ known uses	operational	we have 5+ [[mw:xxx]] links!

Addressed. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 17:30, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

No response for all of August - verified against the list and marking as resolved. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 11:52, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

This issue has been resolved.

Request for an admin to delete all interwiki entries starting with lowercase 'n'

Round 14. I would like to request that an admin delete all interwiki entries starting with 'n'.

There are no exceptions.

Q: what if we delete an entry someone is using?

Safe to delete (n)


Prefix	URL	Site status	Comments
nagasaki	http://Nagasaki.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
nashville	http://nashville.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
nationalparks	http://nationalparks.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
neopets	http://guilds.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
netvillage	http://www.netbros.com/?$1	ERR_SSL_PROTOCOL_ERROR	-
networking	http://networking.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
neverend	http://Neverend.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
neworleans	http://neworleans.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
newyork	http://newyork.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
nickelodeon	http://Nickelodeon.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
nintendo	http://nintendo.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
nl.phpbb	http://nl.phpbb.wikia.com/wiki/$1	NET::ERR_CERT_COMMON_NAME_INVALID	-
nn.miqra	http://nn.miqra.wikia.com/wiki/$1	NET::ERR_CERT_COMMON_NAME_INVALID	-
novelas	http://novelas.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
novellas	http://novelas.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
nswiki	http://www.nswiki.net/index.php?title=$1	Buy this domain	-

Keep nothing (n)

There are no interwiki entries to keep starting with lowercase 'n'.

Addressed. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 13:58, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Verified. Looks good to me. Furey (talk) 14:13, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

This issue has been resolved.

Request for an admin to delete most interwiki entries starting with lowercase 'o'

Round 15. I would like to request that an admin delete all interwiki entries starting with 'o', except for this 1:

oracle

This exception is probably not used, but https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Special:Search does not let me search for "[[oracle:" or "oracle:" so I have to look at hits for "oracle" and there are too many of them. So keep this for now.

Q: what if we delete an entry someone is using?

Safe to delete (o)


Prefix	URL	Site status	Comments
oeis	http://www.research.att.com/cgi-bin/access.cgi/as/njas/sequences/eisA.cgi?Anum=$1	Page Not Found	-
olpc	http://wiki.laptop.org/go/$1	operational	-
onderwijs	http://onderwijs.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	dutch
openfacts	http://openfacts.berlios.de/index.phtml?title=$1	Internal Server Error	-
openwiki	http://openwiki.com/?$1	DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN	-
opera7wiki	http://nontroppo.org/wiki/$1	(sketchy site with a popup asking me to install a browser extension)	(expedited deletion requested) use protection if you visit this site.
operabrowser	http://Operabrowser.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
orgpatterns	http://www.bell-labs.com/cgi-user/OrgPatterns/OrgPatterns?$1	404 Page not found	-
orsonwelles	http://welles.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
osi reference model	http://wiki.tigma.ee/index.php/$1	DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN	-
owiki	http://owiki.de/index.php?title=$1	german

Keep this for now (o)


Prefix	URL	Uses	Site status	Comments
oracle	http://oracle.wikia.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable	Not a valid community	-

Addressed. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 03:36, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Reviewed. Looks good to me. Furey (talk) 03:46, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

This issue has been resolved.

Request for an admin to delete most interwiki entries starting with lowercase 'p'

Round 16. I would like to request that an admin delete all interwiki entries starting with 'p', except for these 5:

pc, peace, php, pokemon, pokémon

Most of these are probably not used, but https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Special:Search does not let me search for "[[pc:" or "pc:" so I have to look at hits for "pc" and there are too many of them. So keep these for now.

"pokémon" has non-ASCII characters so I do not trust mediawiki search and interwiki prefix matching to work the same way.

Q: what if we delete an entry someone is using?

Safe to delete (p)


Prefix	URL	Site status	Comments
pagan	http://pagan.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
pakistan	http://pakistan.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
palkbay	http://palkbay.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
pangalacticorg	http://www.pangalactic.org/Wiki/$1	DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN	-
panzer_general	http://pg2.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
parenting	http://parenting.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
patwiki	http://gauss.ffii.org/$1	operational	-
pdamaps	http://pdamaps.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
pearpc	http://pearpc.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
peize	http://peize.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	dutch
personals	http://personals.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
personaltelco	http://www.personaltelco.net/index.cgi/$1	operational	-
peteashdown	http://vote.peteashdown.org/wiki/index.php/$1	DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN	-
pg2	http://pg2.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
philadelphiawiki	http://philadelphia.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
philippines	http://philippines.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
phpbb	http://phpbb.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
phpwiki	http://phpwiki.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php?$1	An error has been encountered in accessing this page.	-
piki	http://pikminwiki.com/$1	operational	-
pikie	http://pikie.darktech.org/cgi/pikie?$1	DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN	-
pikifan	http://fanon.pikminwiki.com/$1	DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN	-
pl.cpp	http://pl.cpp.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	polish
plotwiki	http://www.gaiacast.com/wiki/index.php/$1	404	-
pmeg	http://www.bertilow.com/pmeg/$1.php	operational	esperanto
pmid	https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/$1?dopt=Abstract	operational	-
pmwiki	http://wiki.porplemontage.com/index.php/$1	DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN	-
pnw	http://pnw.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
pnwcommunity	http://pnw.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
poetrywiki	http://poetry.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
poewiki	http://poewiki.org/index.php/$1	DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN	-
poker	http://poker.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
polaqu	http://polaqu.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
powerrangers	http://PowerRangers.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
ppr	http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?$1	operational	-
protoscience	http://Protoscience.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
prowrestling	http://ProWrestling.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
psychographic	http://Psychographic.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
pt.linuxwikia	http://pt.Linux.wikia.com/wiki/$1	NET::ERR_CERT_COMMON_NAME_INVALID	-
pt.linuxwikicity	http://pt.Linux.wikicities.com/wiki/$1	main page of fandom.com	-
pt.tibia	http://pt.tibia.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	portuguese
purlnet	http://purl.oclc.org/NET/$1	operational	-
pythoninfo	http://wiki.python.org/moin/$1	operational	-
pythonwiki	http://www.pythonwiki.de/$1	NET::ERR_CERT_COMMON_NAME_INVALID	-
pywiki	http://www.voght.com/cgi-bin/pywiki?$1	Not Found	-

Keep these for now (p)


Prefix	URL	Uses	Site status	Comments
pc	http://pc.wikia.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable	operational	-
peace	http://peace.wikia.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable	operational	-
php	http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.$1.php	unsearchable, 1+ known uses	operational	we have 1+ [[php:xxx]] links!
pokemon	http://pokemon.wikia.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable	operational	-
pokémon	http://pokemon.wikia.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable	operational	special char in prefix

Addressed. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 07:35, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Reviewed. Looks good to me. Furey (talk) 00:26, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

This issue has been resolved.

Request for an admin to delete most interwiki entries starting with lowercase 'q'

Round 17. I would like to request that an admin delete all interwiki entries starting with 'q', except for this 1:

query

This is probably not used, but https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Special:Search does not let me search for "[[query:" or "query:" so I have to look at hits for "query" and there are too many of them. So keep these for now.

Q: what if we delete an entry someone is using?

Safe to delete (q)


Prefix	URL	Uses	Site status	Comments
quitsmoking	http://quitsmoking.wikia.com/wiki/$1	0	operational	-
quiz	http://quiz.wikia.com/wiki/$1	0	operational	-

Keep this for now (q)


Prefix	URL	Uses	Site status	Comments
query	http://re.search.wikia.com/search.html#$1	unsearchable	NET::ERR_CERT_COMMON_NAME_INVALID	-

Addressed. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 12:51, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Verified. Looks good to me. Furey (talk) 12:55, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

This issue has been resolved.

Request for an admin to delete most interwiki entries starting with lowercase 'r'

Round 18. I would like to request that an admin delete all interwiki entries starting with 'r', except for these 4:

religion, religion-wiki, reviews, roguebasin

Most of these are probably not used, but https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Special:Search does not let me search for "[[religion:" or "religion:" so I have to look at hits for "religion" and there are too many of them. So keep these for now.

Q: what if we delete an entry someone is using?

Safe to delete (r)


Prefix	URL	Site status	Comments
radioscanning	http://radioscanning.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
raec	http://www.raec.clacso.edu.ar:8080/raec/Members/raecpedia/$1	DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN	-
realestate	http://realestate.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
reallifesoap	http://rls.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
republiconline	http://RepublicOnline.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
revo	http://purl.org/NET/voko/revo/art/$1.html	operational	esperanto
rfc	https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc$1	operational	-
roadcycling	http://RoadCycling.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
robotbattle	http://RobotBattle.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
rollercoastertycoon	http://rct.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
romhack	http://romhack.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
royalisme	http://Royalisme.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
rpg	http://rpg.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
ru.townn-titles	http://ru.townn-titles.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	russian
runescape	http://RuneScape.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
russianworld	http://russianworld.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-

Keep these for now (r)


Prefix	URL	Uses	Site status	Comments
religion	http://religion-wiki.wikia.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable	Not a valid community	-
religion-wiki	http://religion-wiki.wikia.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable	Not a valid community	-
reviews	http://reviews.wikia.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable	Not a valid community	-
roguebasin	https://www.roguebasin.com/index.php?title=$1	unsearchable, 10+ known uses	operational	we have 10+ [[roguebasin:xxx]] links!

Addressed. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 17:30, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

No response for all of August - verified against the list and marking as resolved. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 11:52, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

This issue has been resolved.

Request for an admin to delete most interwiki entries starting with lowercase 's'

Round 19. I would like to request that an admin delete all interwiki entries starting with 's', except for these 6:

s, search, seeds, software, startup, students

Most of these are probably not used, but https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Special:Search does not let me search for "[[search:" or "search:" so I have to look at hits for "search" and there are too many of them. So keep these for now.

"s" has at least one use.

Q: what if we delete an entry someone is using?

Safe to delete (s)


Prefix	URL	Site status	Comments
s23wiki	http://is-root.de/wiki/index.php/$1	Buy this domain.	-
sageswiki	http://sages.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
sagewiki	http://sage.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
salmesykkel	http://salmesykkel.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
samplitude	http://Samplitude.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
sandiego	http://sandiego.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
sanfranciscowiki	http://sanfrancisco.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
sca21	http://sca21.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
schoolcomputing	http://SchoolComputing.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
schools	http://schools.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
scoop	http://scoop.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
scouting	http://scouting.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
scoutpedia	http://www.scoutpedia.info/index.php/$1	DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN	-
scratchpad	http://scratchpad.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
scriptingwiki	http://scripting.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
seapig	http://www.seapig.org/$1	Save Money on Shared or Dedicated Hosting	-
seattlewiki	http://seattle.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
seattlewireless	http://seattlewireless.net/?$1	404. That’s an error.	-
seldonshand	http://seldonhand.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
semweb	http://semweb.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
senseislibrary	http://senseis.xmp.net/?$1	operational	-
sgcommand	http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
sgwireless	http://sgwireless.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
shakti	http://cgi.algonet.se/htbin/cgiwrap/pgd/ShaktiWiki/$1	DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN	-
shoppingwiki	http://shopping.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
simpsons	http://simpsons.shoutwiki.com/wiki/$1	No such wiki	-
sims	http://sims.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
sitelibrary	http://libraries.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
skypeme	skype:$1?chat	(url not tested)	-
slashdot	http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=$1	operational	-
slektami	http://slektami.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
smarteam	http://cm.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
smikipedia	http://www.smikipedia.org/$1	DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN	-
smw	http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/$1	operational	-
socialism	http://socialism.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
sockwiki	http://wiki.socklabs.com/$1	DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN	-
solarconquest	http://SolarConquest.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
sosdancn	http://wiki.sosdancn.org/index.php?title=$1	DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN	-
sourceforge	http://sourceforge.net/$1	operational	-
sourcewatch	http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=$1	operational	-
spankart	http://spankingartwiki.animeotk.com/wiki/$1	DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN	-
sport	http://armchairgm.wikia.com/$1	operational	-
sports	http://armchairgm.wikia.com/$1	operational	-
squeak	http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/$1	operational	-
srpstvo	http://Srpstvo.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
ssb	http://www.ssbwiki.com/$1	operational	-
stargate	http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
startrekwiki	http://startrek.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
starwars	http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/$1	fully operational	-
storypedia	http://Storypedia.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
stpete	http://stpete.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
strategywiki	http://strategywiki.org/wiki/$1	operational	-
strikiwiki	http://ch.twi.tudelft.nl/~mostert/striki/teststriki.pl?$1	DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN	-
suceavacounty	http://Suceava.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
suisse	http://suisse.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
sunrisesunset	http://sunrisesunset.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
superstar	http://superstar.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	czech
susning	http://www.susning.nu/$1	ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED	-
svgwiki	http://wiki.svg.org/$1	Not Found	-
svtwiki	http://SVT.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
swtrain	http://train.spottingworld.com/$1	operational	-

Keep these for now (s)


Prefix	URL	Uses	Site status	Comments
s	http://www.shoutwiki.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable, 1+ known uses	operational	we have 1+ [[s:xxx]] links!
search	http://search.wikia.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable	operational	-
seeds	http://www.IslandSeeds.org/wiki/$1	unsearchable	DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN	-
software	http://software.wikia.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable	operational	-
startup	http://startup.wikia.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable	Not a valid community	-
students	http://students.wikia.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable	operational	-

Addressed - calling audible and keeping starwars since we have the entire Jedi patch and its contents. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 17:42, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

No response for all of August - verified against the list and marking as resolved. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 11:52, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

This issue has been resolved.

Request for an admin to delete most interwiki entries starting with lowercase 't'

Round 20. I would like to request that an admin delete all interwiki entries starting with 't', except for these 3:

town-titles, townn-titles, translation

Most of these are probably not used, but https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Special:Search does not let me search for "[[translation:" or "translation:" so I have to look at hits for "translation" and there are too many of them. So keep these for now.

"town-titles" and "townn-titles" have special characters so I do not trust mediawiki search and interwiki prefix matching to work the same way.

"tvtropes" was special. I found 4 uses of [[tvtropes:xxx]]. However, 2 of them did not work, because tvtropes re-organized their articles; and were not fixable, because our interwiki link points to the Main section of tvtropes and they moved their article on NetHack to the VideoGame section. And then I saw that our article on tvtropes had obsolete information, so I updated that article, added references, and so on. At the end of my editing session, there were 0 uses of [[tvtropes:xxx]], so you can delete the interwiki link now. tvtropes certainly has a way of engaging people for longer than they planned.

Q: what if we delete an entry someone is using?

Safe to delete (t)


Prefix	URL	Site status	Comments
tablature	http://tablature.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
talisman	http://talismanonlinewiki.com/wiki/$1	Top Live Casino	already done, expedited deletion
tardis	http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
tavi	http://tavi.sourceforge.net/$1	An error has been encountered in accessing this page.	-
techcompare	http://TechCompare.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
tejo	http://www.tejo.org/vikio/$1	operational	esperanto
terrorwiki	http://www.liberalsagainstterrorism.com/wiki/index.php/$1	How To Grow Your Small Business Into a Large Business	-
tesoltaiwan	http://www.tesol-taiwan.org/wiki/index.php/$1	no wiki, redirects to its main page	-
thelemapedia	http://www.thelemapedia.org/index.php/$1	operational	-
theopedia	http://www.theopedia.com/$1	Not found	-
theowiki	http://www.theowiki.com/index.php/$1	ERR_CONNECTION_RESET	-
thinkwiki	http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/$1	operational	-
tianjin	http://Tianjin.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
tmbw	http://www.tmbw.net/wiki/$1	operational	-
tmnet	http://www.technomanifestos.net/?$1	DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN	-
tmwiki	http://www.EasyTopicMaps.com/?page=$1	DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN	-
toronto	http://toronto.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
tourism	http://tourism.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
trains	http://trains.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
transformers	http://tfwiki.net/wiki/$1	operational	-
transhumanism	http://transhumanism.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
tricities	http://huntricitiesde.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
turismo	http://www.tejo.org/turismo/$1	operational	esperanto
turriwiki	http://wiki.finfur.net/index.php/$1	Fatal exception of type MWException	-
tvtropes	http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/$1	operational	our interwiki link points to Main and their NetHack article is no longer in Main, so we no longer use any tvtropes:xxx interwiki links
twiki	http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/$1	operational	-
twistedwiki	http://purl.net/wiki/twisted/$1	404 Page not found on this site.	-

Keep these for now (t)


Prefix	URL	Uses	Site status	Comments
town-titles	http://townn-titles.wikia.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable	operational	russian
townn-titles	http://townn-titles.wikia.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable	operational	russian
translation	http://translation.wikia.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable	operational	-

Addressed. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 03:07, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

What about: tricities, turismo, turrikwiki, tvtropes, twiki, twistedwiki? Furey (talk) 03:17, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

...bleah, I tunnel-visioned on everything above the "keep" entries - should be good now. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 03:34, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Reviewed. Looks good to me. Furey (talk) 04:19, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

This issue has been resolved.

Request for an admin to delete most interwiki entries starting with lowercase 'u'

Round 21. I would like to request that an admin delete all interwiki entries starting with 'u', except for this 1:

university

This is probably not used, but https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Special:Search does not let me search for "[[university:" or "university:" so I have to look at hits for "university" and there are too many of them. So keep these for now.

Q: what if we delete an entry someone is using?

Safe to delete (u)


Prefix	URL	Site status	Comments
uea	http://www.tejo.org/uea/$1	operational	esperanto
ufology	http://ufology.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
ukrailways	http://ukrailways.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
ukroads	http://ukroads.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
uncyclopedia	http://www.uncyclopedia.org/wiki/$1	File not found (404 error)	uncyclopedia moved. I changed all 1 uses of [[uncyclopedia:xxx]] to use direct https to current location.
universitywikinodewiki	http://universitywikinodewiki.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
unreal	http://wiki.beyondunreal.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
ursine	http://ursine.ca/$1	Not Found	-
usej	http://www.tejo.org/usej/$1	operational	esperanto
utopia	http://Utopia.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-

Keep this for now (u)


Prefix	URL	Uses	Site status	Comments
university	http://universitywikinodewiki.wikia.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable	Not a valid community	-

Addressed with the exception of Uncyclopedia - perhaps we could put that to use since it's mentioned in relation to the game's introduction if I recall correctly (doing an ASCII rendition of the character discovering the dungeon). --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 03:05, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Fine to give Uncyclopedia a pass for now.

How about "utopia" though? Furey (talk) 03:12, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Oh, I just flat out missed that one, resolved it now - I'm tempted to think we can ditch "university" as well, since the results from just searching the word doesn't go beyond a single page, but I'm fine tabling that until the other letters are dealt with. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 03:16, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Reviewed. Looks good to me. Furey (talk) 03:20, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

This issue has been resolved.

Request for an admin to delete all interwiki entries starting with lowercase 'v'

Round 22. I would like to request that an admin delete all interwiki entries starting with 'v'.

There are no exceptions.

Q: what if we delete an entry someone is using?

Safe to delete (v)


Prefix	URL	Site status	Comments
vancouver	http://vancouver.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
vanishedlibrary	http://VanishedLibrary.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
vegas	http://lasvegas.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
villagearts	http://www.Village-Arts.org/wiki/index.php/$1	DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN	-
vinismo	http://vinismo.com/en/$1	ERR_TIMED_OUT	-
virtualpets	http://VirtualPets.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
virus	http://virus.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
visualworks	http://wiki.cs.uiuc.edu/VisualWorks/$1	DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN	-
vlaamseklantenbrussel	http://vlaamseklantenbrussel.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	dutch
voterice	http://voterice.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-

Keep nothing (v)

There are no interwiki entries to keep starting with lowercase 'v'.

Addressed. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 16:16, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

Still need to delete: vancouver, vanishedlibrary Furey (talk) 19:54, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

Thought I'd gotten them with the rest - cleared out now. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 20:07, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

Verified. Looks good to me. Furey (talk) 20:10, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

This issue has been resolved.

Request for an admin to delete most interwiki entries starting with lowercase 'w'

Round 23. I would like to request that an admin delete all interwiki entries starting with 'w', except for these 12:

w, why, wiki, wikia, wikibooks, wikicities, wikimedia, wikinfo, wikipedia, wikt, wiktionary, worlds

Some of these are probably not used, but https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Special:Search does not let me search for "[[w:" or "w:" so I have to look at hits for "w" and there are too many of them. So keep these for now.

Q: what if we delete an entry someone is using?

Safe to delete (w)


Prefix	URL	Site status	Comments
w:c:academicjobs	http://academicjobs.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
w:c:wowwiki	http://www.wowwiki.com/$1	operational	-
warpedview	http://www.warpedview.com/mediawiki/index.php/$1	DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN	-
warzone2100	http://warzone2100.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
webdevwikinl	http://www.promo-it.nl/WebDevWiki/index.php?page=$1	De website die u probeert te vinden is niet bereikbaar	dutch
webisodes	http://www.webisodes.org/$1	HTTP Status: 404 (not found)	-
webseitzwiki	http://webseitz.fluxent.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
westport	http://Westport.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
whitewolf	http://whiteWolf.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
wikiablog	http://blogs.wikia.com/$1	operational	-
wikiaentertainment	http://entertainment.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
wikiagaming	http://gaming.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
wikiahelp	http://help.wikia.com/wiki/Help:$1	operational	-
wikianswers	http://answers.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
wikible	http://www.wikible.org/en/$1	(sketchy site with a popup asking me to install a browser extension)	(expedited deletion requested) use protection if you visit this site.
wikicomedy	http://comedy.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
wikif1	http://www.wikif1.org/$1	ERR_TIMED_OUT	-
wikifur	http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
wikihelp	http://help.wikia.com/wiki/Help:$1	operational	-
wikihow	http://www.wikihow.com/$1	operational	-
wikiindex	http://wikiindex.com/$1	504 Gateway Time-out	-
wikimac	http://mac.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
wikimon	http://wikimon.net/$1	operational	-
wikimoon	http://wikimoon.org/index.php?title=$1	operational	-
wikinews	http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/$1	operational	-
wikiquote	http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/$1	operational	-
wikirps	http://www.wikirps.org/wiki/$1	Page Not Found	-
wikiscum	http://scum.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	-
wikisource	http://wikisource.org/wiki/$1	operational	-
wikispecies	http://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/$1	operational	-
wikitravel	http://wikitravel.org/en/$1	operational	-
wikiversity	http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/$1	operational	-
wikivoyage	http://www.wikivoyage.org/general/$1	operational	-
wikiworld	http://WikiWorld.com/wiki/index.php/$1	Parse error: syntax error, unexpected 'Namespace' (T_NAMESPACE), expecting identifier (T_STRING) in /var/www/vhosts/wikiworld.com/httpdocs/wiki/includes/Namespace.php on line 46	-
windsurfing	http://windsurfing.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
wlp	http://wlp.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
wlug	http://www.wlug.org.nz/$1	operational	-
wnc	http://wnc.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
worldcitizen	http://worldcitizen.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
wowwiki	http://www.wowwiki.com/$1	operational	-

Keep these for now (w)


Prefix	URL	Uses	Site status	Comments
w	http://community.wikia.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable, 6+ known uses	operational	we have 6+ [[w:xxx]] links!
why	http://clublet.com/c/c/why?$1	unsearchable	(domain for sale)	-
wiki	http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?$1	unsearchable	operational	-
wikia	http://www.wikia.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable	main page of fandom.com	-
wikibooks	http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/$1	3	operational	we have 3 [[wikibooks:xxx]] links!
wikicities	http://www.wikia.com/wiki/$1	1	main page of fandom.com	we have 1 [[wikicities:xxx]] links!
wikimedia	http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/$1	unsearchable	operational	-
wikinfo	http://www.wikinfo.org/index.php/$1	2	wikinfo exists but rearranged site	we have 2 [[wikinfo:xxx]] links!
wikipedia	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/$1	unsearchable, many	operational	we have many [[wikipedia:xxx]] links!
wikt	http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/$1	1	operational	we have 1 [[wikt:xxx]] links!
wiktionary	http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/$1	3	operational	we have 3 [[wiktionary:xxx]] links!
worlds	http://worlds.wikia.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable	Not a valid community	-

Addressed. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 21:18, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

Verified. Looks good to me. Furey (talk) 21:27, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

This issue has been resolved.

Request for an admin to delete many interwiki entries starting with lowercase 'x', 'y', or 'z'

Round 24. I would like to request that an admin delete all interwiki entries starting with 'x', 'y', or 'z', except for these 5:

x-files, zh.anime, zh.mac, zh.wikimac, zzz wiki

These 5 prefixes have special characters so I do not trust mediawiki search and interwiki prefix matching to work the same way.

Q: what if we delete an entry someone is using?

Safe to delete (x), (y), and (z)


Prefix	URL	Site status	Comments
xao	http://XAO.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
ypsieyeball	http://sknkwrks.dyndns.org:1957/writewiki/wiki.pl?$1	ERR_TIMED_OUT	-
zeldapendium	http://www.zeldapendium.de/wiki/$1	operational	german
zeldawiki	http://zeldawiki.org/$1	operational	-
zemirot	http://zemirotdatabase.org/view_song.php?title=$1	operational	-
zhmusic	http://zh.music.wikia.com/wiki/$1	operational	chinese
zwiki	http://zwiki.org/$1	zwiki.org link broken #6	-

Keep these for now (x), (y), and (z)


Prefix	URL	Uses	Site status	Comments
x-files	http://x-files.wikia.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable	operational	-
zh.anime	http://zh.anime.wikia.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable	operational	chinese
zh.mac	http://zh.mac.wikia.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable	operational	chinese
zh.wikimac	http://zh.mac.wikia.com/wiki/$1	unsearchable	operational	chinese
zzz wiki	http://wiki.zzz.ee/index.php/$1	unsearchable	ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED	-

In regards to specifically Zeldawiki, I think that one is likely to be worth keeping because we do have at least a few Zelda-inspired monsters, possibly among other stuff (see garo, which also need a presentability pass but there you go). The rest of the "delete" table can go without contest. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 16:15, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

I am fine with keeping Zeldawiki and others at your discretion. Just make notes like the above, delete the others, mark issue resolved. Furey (talk) 18:03, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

Regarding Zeldawiki, the current interwiki link (zeldawiki.org) goes to the Fandom wiki. I think it might be better to link to the independent wiki, which is at https://zeldawiki.wiki/wiki/Main_Page. From what I recall, I think it's the same wiki team, who moved away from Fandom? --ScienceBall (talk) 11:05, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

Correct. My idea was to maintain links to independent non-~~Wikia~~ Fandom™ wikis and edit or establish relevant interwiki entries accordingly while deleting the other unused ones - so far ZeldaWiki and Bulbapedia come to mind as "obvious" candidates. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 11:13, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

Addressed pending a judgment on zeldapendium - it's a German wiki on The Legend of Zelda that's distinct from ZeldaWiki but still part of the NIWA (independent alliance of Nintendo wikis), so I'm trying to figure out what that's about - the rest's been dealt with. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 21:19, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

For the purposes of Phase 1, just keep zeldapendium. If it gets deleted or changed 5 minutes after this issue is resolved that's up to not-me.

Verified. Looks good to me. Furey (talk) 21:24, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

This issue has been resolved.

Request for an admin to delete many interwiki entries starting with other first characters

Round 25. This is the final round.

I would like to request that an admin delete many interwiki entries starting with other first characters except for these 2:

Cache, Wikihack

Some of these are probably not used, but https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Special:Search does not let me search for "[[Cache:" or "Cache:" so I have to look at hits for "Cache" and there are too many of them. So keep these for now.

Q: what if we delete an entry someone is using?

Safe to delete (other first character)


Prefix	URL	Site status	Comments
3dgame	http://3dgame.wikia.com/wiki/$1	Not a valid community	-
AwarenessWiki	http://taoriver.net/aware/$1	ERR_ADDRESS_UNREACHABLE	-
Legowiki	http://www.object-arts.com/wiki/html/Lego-Robotics/$1	ERR_TIMED_OUT	-

Keep these for now (other first character)


Prefix	URL	Uses	Site status	Comments
Cache	http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:$1	unsearchable	operational	-
Wikihack	http://nethackwiki.com/wiki/NetHackWiki:$1	unsearchable, 2+ known uses	operational	we have 2+ [[Wikihack:xxx]] links!

Addressed. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 21:21, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

Verified. Looks good to me. Furey (talk) 21:22, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

This issue has been resolved.

"Disallow empty edit summary" abuse filter

I think it is generally useful to encourage users to use edit summaries, because it helps people looking at page history determine what was done and why. We have Special:AbuseFilter/9, which disallows empty edit summaries except on users' own pages. However, this edit filter might hinder new users trying to ask questions. I propose that it should not trigger on talk namespaces, along with the Forum namespace, because users who are just trying to ask questions often make their first edits there. Edits on these pages are obviously discussion, and having to add "reply" in the edit summary after a section name seems redundant.

I think this could be implemented by adding a condition & !(((page_namespace % 2) == 1) | (page_namespace == 110)) to the edit filter (though somebody else should review this for correctness). All talk namespaces are odd-numbered, and 110 is the Forum namespace.

This page, as a discussion page that is not in a talk namespace, would not be exempt after the proposed change, but it is mostly used by experienced editors. It could still be added as a special case though (maybe using page_title == "Community Portal"?). Cathartes (talk) 04:10, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Seconding this with mod hat off (the filter is not something I had a hand in and have no experience with editing). --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 04:12, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

I vote yes, on this or any variation of the design that Cathartes wants to do. Furey (talk) 04:26, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

I personally have thought of just turning that damn filter to warn, rather than disallow, though I can see the argument that even a warning might discourage newer users. IMO a simpler version of what Cathartes wants to do would be to only apply the filter to places where it's needed, rather than try to carve out a list of exceptions. Offhand, I don't think we need that filter anywhere but the main namespace and maybe places like Template and Source. -Ion frigate (talk) 06:56, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Enabling it only in the main namespace and Template sounds good to me. I think using warn instead of disallow is also acceptable since I think some new/infrequent editors can't figure out why their edits are disallowed before giving up. Cathartes (talk) 00:07, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Okay, I did both - set it to trigger only in main, Template, Source, and Category, and set it to warn. If we get too many mainspace edits without summaries, we might want to put it back to disallow, but let's try the more permissive version for now. -Ion frigate (talk) 10:13, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

I think this should work out, though if it does come to that I might consider having a disallow after enough warnings in a given span of time, if at all possible - I doubt it'll be as much of a solve as needed at that juncture but it's a line of thought worth considering imo (if it's even possible with the filter). --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 10:15, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

This issue has been resolved.

Regarding source references and hosting source code

~~Retyped from scratch because I managed to Thanos several hundred tabs...~~

So a discussion about how to format source references prompted me to ponder about the current state of the wiki with regards to handling sources in general: Much of the structures set in place a decade or so back were created with the assumption that the latest stable version would be 3.4.3 for the foreseeable future, which is very evidently not the case, and the source reference templates are just one among many. While most of the current active editing base - which, it bears mentioning, is much different from that of the aforementioned era - is generally diligent about specifying versions when writing source references, it's clear that some level of overhaul is overdue, both in regard to how they are written and structured on a base and across the board with how the wiki is set up to work. With 3.7 to be released at some unknown point in the future, I think it's best we get ahead of that now, especially when we're still several versions behind on both uploading and annotating, and in general have many sorely out-of-date articles for vanilla NetHack (to say nothing of the variant workload).

Far as formatting references to source code, I think "formalizing" reference styles like {{refsrc|src/allmain.c|123|nethack=3.4.3}}{{refsrc|src/allmain.c|123|nethack=3.6.7}} and [[Source:Version/folder/file]] (not exactly those styles, but the general patterns displayed) may be a good start. In terms of specifically the source code hosted here, we also need to finish out the source listing for previous versions deal with the mixed syntax highlight problem: the feature is a small extension intended to automatically hilite source lines with GeSHi, but the feature does not seem to work on current MediaWiki software. Interestingly, as some edits I've made here and there seem to indicate, removing the magic word this was intended to work with makes linking to specific lines on source code articles functional. With that in mind, I feel like it might be a good idea to remove that from all the surce code articles in question, but it's absolutely worth discussing how to most constructively handle all of the above and more here, as well as perhaps on the Style Guide talk page. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 10:17, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

My view, in one sentence: Every reference to source code must explicitly specify a version number.

Lots more here: User:Furey/References to source code

I've been fixing markup in the Source:NetHack 3.4.3 articles. They have a lot of references to [[foo.h]] and [[foo.c]] articles, and those basename articles quietly changed from 3.4.3 to 3.6.1 in December 2015, and that is completely wrong for 3.4.3 documentation.

Each time I commit an article in Source:NetHack 3.4.3, nearly every article gets added to https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Category:Pages_with_syntax_highlighting_errors. It's as if something in the GeSHi processing just chokes on nearly every article.

Not only does the syntax highlighting fail, but we lost line number anchors as well. I would really like those line number anchors, more than I would like syntax highlighting, if I had to choose between them.

https://web.archive.org/web/20140403230634/https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Source:NetHack_3.4.3/src/allmain.c shows that syntax highlighting did work in 2014. https://web.archive.org/web/20220810194631/https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Source:NetHack_3.4.3/src/allmain.c shows no syntax highlighting in 2022. https://nethackwiki.com/index.php?title=Source:NetHack_3.4.3/src/allmain.c&action=history shows the last change was in 2013. So it was something in the GeSHi processing that changed, not something in the article.

It would be good for Paxed to look into this, very interested in their knowledge and opinion.

Furey (talk) 11:14, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Edited to add: I spent more time on https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Source:NetHack_3.4.3/*

https://web.archive.org/web/20181003031605/http://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Source:NetHack_3.4.3/src/engrave.c is the latest capture with syntax coloring

https://web.archive.org/web/20190407192043/https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Source:NetHack_3.4.3/src/spell.c is the earlist capture without syntax coloring

so something changed between october 3, 2018 and april 7, 2019.

Furey (talk) 11:56, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Proposal to eliminate bare filename redirectors such as [[Dungeon.h]] , [[attrib.c]], and [[Arch.des]]

These redirectors are leftovers from an earlier age where we had only one source version, 3.4.3. (And even then, we had more than one source version, because we had variant sources such as SLASH'EM).

These files, by their nature, must redirect to only one version of NetHack: either 3.4.3 or 3.6.1. For many callers, the redirection goes to the wrong file. Right now, I'm fixing all the callers that produce actual wrong results, changing the caller to get right results.

After that, there will be a few callers left where the redirector happens to give them the nethack version they want. I propose to change those too, so that the caller specifies the nethack version the caller wants, not leaving it to chance. Experience since the importation of 3.6.0 shows the current approach produces an epic number of incorrect references. And it will get worse the day 3.7.0 releases.

And then I propose deleting all the redirectors with names like [[Dungeon.h]] and [[attrib.c].

The modern way to write a source reference is with refsrc, including a nethack=3.4.3 or nethack=3.6.7 parameter. You can also write refsrc with ref=no parameter to generate an inline link.

For now, there are some such as [[Monst.c]] that I may have to punt on. But I will get as much as I can.

This is a piece of a larger discussion on NetHackWiki talk:Style guide#Futureproofing_and_source_references. I am making this small proposal standalone to get started.

Thoughts and votes? Furey (talk) 21:28, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

I definitely agree those should be removed from source references, but I propose that rather than be deleted, they be made into (short) articles describing what the file in question actually does. I'm not talking a full explication/annotation, just short little blurbs like "monst.c is the file that lists every monster along with common properties such as level, AC, and attacks" or "mon.c is a file that defines many monster behaviors, such as what items they will eat or what they will drop upon death". Basically, I think this is a more achievable (and version-agnostic) form of the long-stalled annotation project.

We could also provide links to different versions of the source files on these pages, a process that should be easy to semi-automate with a template. -Ion frigate (talk) 10:51, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

I can undelete pages accordingly if need be, but this seems like a fine enough idea - I don't want it to be too short, though, just meaty enough that it can serve as a source-diving aid of sorts without getting too into the weeds. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 11:58, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Huh. This sounds like a good idea. They would be little disambiguation articles, with links at the bottom for 3.4.3, 3.6.7, 3.7-dev, and even for variant source code. They wouldn't have line numbers or functions. And if someone writes [[src/mon.c]] in a talk page, then the page won't get stale when a new version comes out, people who read source code can figure out that a comment from 2013 was talking about to the 3.4.3 version, especially if there is a link somewhere to a quickie list of release dates. Furey (talk) 12:10, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

This is more complicated than I thought. For example, NetHackWiki has 14 files and 15 redirects for the source file "dogmove.c". I would like to digest the current scheme before making proposals and carrying out sweeps. Interested editors are invited to read and comment on User:Furey/How many copies of dogmove.c?.

Meanwhile, I withdraw this proposal. I'll come back with rewritten proposals if I can get some consensus on my "how many copies" page. I am still fixing pages that link to wrong source versions.

Furey (talk) 03:15, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

This issue has been resolved.

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