User talk:Umbire the Phantom
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Greetings, I have seen that you did a lot of edits recently. It would be nice if you could summarize your changes in the 'Summary' field, so it will be easier for others to see what has been changed :) Stenno (talk) 18:38, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
another false premise
"Yeah, if you're just gonna ignore the readily observed fluidity of human language and ignore such basic concept as hyperbole, then there's no point interacting any further. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 04:47, 3 March 2020 (UTC)"
- I ignore nothing. fluidity -> decay: when a word's usage contradicts its etýmon, meaning and understanding break down. Different words exist for a reason, to say different meanings. The popular habit is to know few words then use the same words for meanings the words they don't know already mean and sometimes the words they know even mean the opposite of the words they want. I hope I used the simple words you understand. Lysdexia (talk) 09:39, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
- Yep, fluidity of a language totally decays it, that's why the English language stills exists after several centuries.
Ascension - congrats!
hey bud, a few of the edits you've made lately seem to remove content without adding clarity. i appreciate you fixing my edit on the basilisk's fiery gaze, but all you did was remove the message about potions; it would have been nice if you'd moved it to someplace you think is more appropriate instead of just deleting it. all that accomplishes is that now if someone searches "boils and explodes!" they'll get nothing. i'd rather be able to find the information and debate about whether it's on the wrong page, than find nothing at all.
you also removed my note that using an axe to try to break a statue is probably a bad idea. since there is a line in the current source code with YASD for this (that does not currently appear to work), it probably is a bad idea, especially if it's enabled in a future release.
- "Boils and explodes" is an effect that applies to all cases of fire damage, not just the pyrolisk's gaze. Furthermore, axes can't break statues, and no one but the most uniformed players are likely to try (minus people looking for messages like those anyway). In any case, I prefer to assume the reader has a modicum of sense and additionally doesn't need to be told about something that wouldn't work anyway - not to mention it makes no sense to further confuse readers with speculation about something that may or may even occur in a future release based off a few specific lines of code. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 02:38, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
Saddle: Thank you!
Couple decades (re crystal ball)?
Are you referring to the "Elements of Style" I mentioned in my summary, or what? (The original is older than that, although at the rate that relatively-formal English changes I question whether anything less than a hundred or so years old should really be considered overall out of date... especially the "rule" I was doing a special application of, "omit needless words". Not something I'm great at, but I try when I see something (to me) obvious.) I'm not offended, BTW. -Actual-nh (talk) 16:10, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
- The point being that we needn't adhere but so stringently to century-old standards (yes, I know how old they are, but I was understating it on purpose). Tightening wording is good but it is possible to overdo it, as I've no doubt done over the years. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 16:12, 1 August 2021 (UTC)