Talk:Crowning

Unrestricted Skill

What exactly does it mean when a weapon skill is made unrestricted? Does this mean you can raise that skill to Expert if you couldn't otherwise? Thanks. --Andronikus 15:57, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Not all classes can use all skills. For example a caveman cannot advance to even basic in long sword. However if you get an artifact long sword, either from crowning or sacrifice gift, you become unrestricted and thus can advance to Basic skill. You cannot advance beyond basic, however. -- Qazmlpok 16:13, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Cool, thanks.--Andronikus 16:48, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Multiple crowning

Can you be crowned more than once? E.g. I get crowned as a neutral charecter and then convert to chaos cold I hold both titles? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ndwolfwood (talk • contribs)

No, crowning is only once. But you can hold the title of a different religion (the one you were crowned under) if you fiddle with the helm of opposite alignment or conversion. --Tjr 13:06, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Retaining title even if different alignment

From looking at ascension records from Junethack, I noticed that one keeps the same title even if one's alignment changes via a helm of opposite alignment. Is this true if conversion happens via an altar? (And I find it rather odd that one retains the intrinsics even after changing alignment...) -Actual-nh (talk) 16:59, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Avoiding Crowning

IMO Avoiding Crowning needs to be its own section and greatly expanded. I went ahead and split off the section.

That "there are three ways to avoid being crowned" is a heckuvan oversimplification, and the given suggestions require scrutiny of at least 3 articles-- luck, alignment record, stethoscope-- and in practice at least prayer, offer, and monk too. Alarmingly, the article on alignment record does not include other negative effects of the actions in the table. I would like to combine the best methods for controlling luck and alignment specifically with regards to crowning.

I am waiting to put them in the article until someone else has a chance to opine, in case anyone thinks there is a better place for that list to be laid out. Please note that there is a partial list under prayer#favors and Gifts.

I started this edit with the intention of writing up a method for using a non-co-aligned altar to both monitor and manage your alignment record (basically get align below 19 by repeatedly praying on it while checking the alignment message), but in fact-checking for writing it, I found that the information in Prayer#Unsuccessful Prayers claiming the ONLY effect of "standing on a different god's altar and praying as normal" is a message on alignment record, and a -1 to alignment, is WRONG. Your god WILL become angry IMMEDIATELY. So I'm off to fix that inaccuracy instead.

Please do not pray on cross-aligned altars, even with no water, if you enjoy your protection and are not fond of being chained to iron balls.D4 wryyyy (talk) 05:27, 15 December 2021 (UTC)