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==Attributes Displayed==
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: I have moved it to my userspace, as it seems more appropriate that a draft be done there. When it is done, I will move it to the main article. Anyone who wishes to contribute is welcome. [[User:Fredil Yupigo|Fredil Yupigo]] 02:12, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
  
Enlightenment will give you information about the following attributes. If you do not have a particular attribute, no message will be displayed.
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:: The above-mentioned work looks valueable, and Fredil Yupigo says on his userpage people may make further edits to it. I propose to merge both pages, and am going to do so if nobody objects until including 7. Jan 2010. -[[User:Tjr|Tjr]] 14:28, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
  
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::: I have finished history merging the article from Fredil Yupigo/Enlightenment and the talk pages, and reverted to the last version before the merge template was added. [[User:Tjr|Tjr]] 18:56, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
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== Content from user space talk page==
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This is greatI noticed that in giving descriptions of a lot of the attributes as well as their names, it duplicates a lot of the content of the excellent-at-first-glance work at [[Property]].  Is there a good way to merge the two, or at least make sure they correlate cleanly? -- [[User:Marcmagus|Marcmagus]] 19:19, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
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!rowspan=3|[[Crowning]]
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=== Change to resistances presentation ===
|"You are the Hand of Elbereth"
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|You are crowned and [[lawful]]
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I folded all the resistances in [[User:Fredil_Yupigo/Enlightenment | the enlightenment table]] into the same "attribute" (it's hard for me to explain clearly; compare my edit to the previous and it will be obvious what I mean)It occurred to me later that maybe that's not what you intended the "attribute" field to be used for, since each resistance is an on/off propositionIf you're not digging what I did I won't be offended if you revert it, but I think it does make the table a bit easier to read.
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[[User:Thomag|Thomag]] 17:04, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
|"You are the Envoy of Balance"
 
|You are crowned and [[neutral]]
 
|-
 
|"You are the Glory of Arioch"
 
|You are crowned and [[chaotic]]
 
|-
 
!rowspan=10|[[Alignment record]]<br/>(always displayed)
 
|"You are piously aligned"
 
| Your alignment record is 20 or more
 
|-
 
|"You are devoutly aligned"
 
| Your alignment record is 14 to 19
 
|-
 
|"You are fervently aligned"
 
| Your alignment record is 9 to 13
 
|-
 
|"You are stridently aligned"
 
| Your alignment record is 4 to 8
 
|-
 
|"You are aligned"
 
| Your alignment record is 3
 
|-
 
|"You are haltingly aligned"
 
| Your alignment record is 1 or 2
 
|-
 
|"You are nominally aligned"
 
| Your alignment record is 0
 
|-
 
|"You have strayed"
 
| Your alignment record is -3 to -1
 
|-
 
|"You have sinned"
 
| Your alignment record is -8 to -4
 
|-
 
|"You have transgressed"
 
| Your alignment record is -9 or less
 
|-
 
![[Fire resistance]]
 
| "You are fire resistant"
 
| You have [[fire resistance]]
 
|-
 
![[Cold resistance]]
 
| "You are cold resistant"
 
| You have [[cold resistance]]
 
|-
 
![[Sleep resistance]]
 
| "You are sleep resistant"
 
| You have [[sleep resistance]]
 
|-
 
![[Disintegration resistance]]
 
| "You are disintegration-resistant"
 
| You have [[disintegration resistance]]
 
|-
 
![[Shock resistance]]
 
| "You are shock resistant"
 
| You have [[shock resistance]]
 
|-
 
![[Poison resistance]]
 
| "You are poison resistant"
 
| You have [[poison resistance]]
 
|-
 
!Level [[drain resistance]]
 
| "You are level-drain resistant"
 
| You have [[drain resistance]]
 
|-
 
![[Sickness resistance]]
 
| "You are immune to sickness"
 
| You have [[Sickness resistance]] and cannot get [[food poisoning]] or [[disease]]
 
|-
 
![[Magic resistance]]
 
| "You are magic-protected"
 
| You have [[magic resistance]]
 
|-
 
![[Acid resistance]]
 
| "You are acid resistant"
 
| You have [[acid resistance]]
 
|-
 
![[Stoning resistance]]
 
| "You are petrification resistant"
 
| You have [[stoning resistance]]
 
|-
 
![[Invulnerability]]
 
| "You are invulnerable"
 
| You have [[invulnerability]]
 
|-
 
![[Food appraisal]]
 
| "You can recognize detrimental food"
 
| You have [[food appraisal]]
 
|-
 
![[Hallucination resistance]]
 
| "You resist hallucinations"
 
| You have [[hallucination resistance]]
 
|-
 
![[Hallucination]]
 
| "You were hallucinating"
 
| You were [[hallucinating]] when the game ended
 
|-
 
![[Stunning]]
 
| "You were stunned"
 
| You were [[stunned]] when the game ended
 
|-
 
![[Confusion]]
 
| "You were confused"
 
| You were [[confused]] when the game ended
 
|-
 
![[Blind]]ed
 
| "You were blinded"
 
| You were [[blind]] from a cause other than wearing a blindfold or being polymorphed into a blind monster when the game ended, or would have been blind had you not had [[astral vision]]
 
|-
 
![[Food poisoning]]
 
| "You are sick from food poisoning"
 
| You have [[food poisoning]]
 
|-
 
![[Disease]]
 
| "You are sick from illness"
 
| You are [[disease]]d
 
|-
 
![[Stiffening|Turning to stone]]
 
| "You are turning to stone"
 
| You are [[stiffening]]
 
|-
 
![[slimed|Turning to slime]]
 
| "You are turning into slime"
 
| You are [[slimed]]
 
|-
 
!rowspan=2|[[Strangulation]]
 
| "You are being strangled"
 
| You have the [[strangulation]] property
 
|-
 
| "You are buried"
 
| You have the [[strangulation]] property and are [[Deferred_features#Burying|buried]] ([[deferred feature]])
 
|-
 
![[Slippery fingers]]
 
| "You have slippery [[foo]]"
 
| You have [[slippery fingers]]
 
|-
 
![[Fumbling]]
 
| "You fumble"
 
| You are [[fumbling]]
 
|-
 
![[Wounded legs]]
 
| "You have wounded [[foo]]"
 
| You have [[wounded legs]]
 
|-
 
![[restful sleep]]
 
| "You fall asleep"
 
| You have [[restful sleep]]
 
|-
 
![[Hunger (intrinsic property)|Hunger]]
 
| "You hunger rapidly"
 
| You have the [[Hunger (intrinsic property)|Hunger]] property
 
|-
 
![[See invisible]]
 
| "You see invisible"
 
| You have [[see invisible]]
 
|-
 
![[Telepathy]]
 
| "You are telepathic"
 
| You have [[telepathy]]
 
|-
 
![[Warning]]
 
| "You are warned"
 
| You have [[warning]]
 
|-
 
!rowspan=3|[[Warned of monster type]]
 
|"You are warned of orcs"
 
|You are [[warned of orcs]]
 
|-
 
| "You are warned of demons"
 
| You are [[warned of demons]] (nothing currently warns of demons). This message can only appear for players who are not warned about orcs
 
|-
 
| "You are warned of something"
 
| Catchall default. This message can only appear for players who are not warned about orcs or demons
 
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![[Warning of undead]]
 
| "You are warned of undead"
 
| You are [[warned of undead]] (nothing in [[Nethack]] currently warns of undead). Note this is a separate property to warning of monster type
 
|-
 
![[Searching]]
 
|-
 
![[Clairvoyance]]
 
|-
 
![[Infravision]]
 
|-
 
![[Detection of monsters]]
 
|-
 
![[Confusion of monsters]]
 
|-
 
![[adornment]]
 
|-
 
![[Invisibility]]
 
|-
 
![[Displacing]]
 
|-
 
![[Stealth]]
 
| "You are stealthy."
 
  | You have [[stealth]]
 
|-
 
![[Aggravation of monsters]]
 
|-
 
![[Conflict]]
 
|-
 
![[Ability to jump]]
 
|-
 
![[Ability to teleport]]
 
|-
 
![[Ability to control teleport]]
 
|-
 
![[Levitation]] or [[flying]]
 
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![[Ability to walk on water]]
 
|-
 
![[Ability to swim]]
 
|-
 
![[Need to breathe]]
 
|-
 
![[Ability to pass through walls]]
 
|-
 
![[Riding]]
 
|-
 
![[Engulfing by monsters]]
 
|-
 
![[Holding by monsters]]
 
|-
 
![[To hit bonus]]
 
|-
 
![[Damage bonus]]
 
|-
 
![[Slow digestion]]
 
|-
 
![[Regeneration]]
 
|-
 
![[Protection]]
 
|-
 
![[Protection from shape changers]]
 
|-
 
![[Polymorphitis]]
 
|-
 
![[Polymorph Control]]
 
|-
 
![[Polymorphed form]]
 
|-
 
![[Unchanging]]
 
|-
 
![[Speed]]
 
|-
 
![[Reflection]]
 
|-
 
![[Free action]]
 
|-
 
![[Sustaining abilities]]
 
|-
 
![[Life saving]]
 
|-
 
![[Twoweaponing]]
 
|-
 
!rowspan=7|[[Luck]]
 
|"You are extremely unlucky."
 
|You have -10 luck or less
 
|-
 
|"You are very unlucky."
 
|You have between -9 and -5 Luck
 
|-
 
|"You are unlucky."
 
|You have between -4 and -1 Luck
 
|-
 
|"Your luck is zero."
 
|Self-explanatory. This message will only be seen in [[wizard mode]]
 
|-
 
|"You are lucky."
 
|You have between 1 and 4 Luck
 
|-
 
|"You are very lucky."
 
|You have between 5 and 9 Luck
 
|-
 
|"You are extremely lucky."
 
|You have 10 or more Luck
 
|-
 
!rowspan=2|Extra Luck<br/>(the effect of extra Luck is reflected in the Luck messages above)
 
|"You have extra luck."
 
|You have three extra Luck, obtained by carrying a noncursed [[luckstone]], or an [[artifact]] with the same effect.
 
|-
 
|"You have reduced luck."
 
|Your Luck is reduced by three points, due to carrying a cursed luckstone, or an artifact with the same effect.
 
|-
 
!rowspan=2|Luck timeout
 
|"Good luck does not time out for you."
 
|Positive (>0) base Luck is not reduced with time. <!-- rate varies. -->
 
|-
 
|"Bad luck does not time out for you."
 
|Negative (<0) base Luck is not reduced with time.
 
|-
 
!rowspan=3|[[God]]'s [[anger]]
 
|"[[Deity]] is angry with you."
 
|Your god's anger is between 1 and 3.
 
|-
 
|"[[Deity]] is very angry with you."
 
  |Your god's anger is between 4 and 6.
 
|-
 
|"[[Deity]] is extremely angry with you."
 
|Your god's anger is 7 or more.
 
|-
 
!rowspan=2|Ability to [[pray]]
 
|"You can safely pray."
 
|You may safely pray to your [[god]]. <!-- it's not as simple as a prayer timeout of zero --> Note that this can be misleading for [[neutral]] players polymorphed into [[undead]] - there is a random chance that is recalculated each time NetHack checks if it is safe to pray.
 
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|"You can not yet safely pray."
 
|There is a condition which means you cannot safely pray. Typically your prayer timeout is not low enough, but all other conditions, such as whether your god is angry and whether you are in Gehennom, are checked as well.
 
|}
 

Latest revision as of 18:56, 11 January 2010

I'm working on a VERY BIG table for this

Enumerating all possible messages and their meanings.

Didn't realise quite how many there were when i started...

--Rogerb-on-NAO 00:12, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

This has rather stalled and it seems others want to contribute, so I'm putting the work to date here. It can be put on the main page when it's completed.

--Rogerb-on-NAO 10:31, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

I have moved it to my userspace, as it seems more appropriate that a draft be done there. When it is done, I will move it to the main article. Anyone who wishes to contribute is welcome. Fredil Yupigo 02:12, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
The above-mentioned work looks valueable, and Fredil Yupigo says on his userpage people may make further edits to it. I propose to merge both pages, and am going to do so if nobody objects until including 7. Jan 2010. -Tjr 14:28, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
I have finished history merging the article from Fredil Yupigo/Enlightenment and the talk pages, and reverted to the last version before the merge template was added. Tjr 18:56, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Content from user space talk page

This is great. I noticed that in giving descriptions of a lot of the attributes as well as their names, it duplicates a lot of the content of the excellent-at-first-glance work at Property. Is there a good way to merge the two, or at least make sure they correlate cleanly? -- Marcmagus 19:19, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Change to resistances presentation

I folded all the resistances in the enlightenment table into the same "attribute" (it's hard for me to explain clearly; compare my edit to the previous and it will be obvious what I mean). It occurred to me later that maybe that's not what you intended the "attribute" field to be used for, since each resistance is an on/off proposition. If you're not digging what I did I won't be offended if you revert it, but I think it does make the table a bit easier to read. Thomag 17:04, 15 July 2009 (UTC)