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If you ride a dragon, do you miss all those obnoxious fire traps, or is it just trap doors, holes, pits? If yes, that could double for fire resistance. {{unsigned|tjr}} | If you ride a dragon, do you miss all those obnoxious fire traps, or is it just trap doors, holes, pits? If yes, that could double for fire resistance. {{unsigned|tjr}} | ||
:No. You still take full damage. I assume this is for a multi-conduct game? Is it possible to obtain and wield Fire Brand for the fire resistance? Or you could play as a Priest for the Mitre, or a Tourist + crystal ball to detect the traps. -- [[User:Qazmlpok|Qazmlpok]] 22:21, September 20, 2010 (UTC) | :No. You still take full damage. I assume this is for a multi-conduct game? Is it possible to obtain and wield Fire Brand for the fire resistance? Or you could play as a Priest for the Mitre, or a Tourist + crystal ball to detect the traps. -- [[User:Qazmlpok|Qazmlpok]] 22:21, September 20, 2010 (UTC) | ||
| + | :: Yes, I was thinking of Gehennom in a 12-conduct game without bones stuffing (i.e. keeping all tracked conducts). After [http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.roguelike.nethack/browse_thread/thread/1627ea80a202eb2d some discussion on RGRN], I settled on wizards for the starting equipment. Most ways to handle fire traps have some drawbacks: | ||
| + | ::# Alchemize huge amounts of hit points, and shrug off the loss in max HP. Few monsters have a melee fire attack. | ||
| + | ::# Fire Brand, if found on the floor, is still a risk to pacifist & weaponless conducts. | ||
| + | ::# A ring of fire resistance, if found on the floor, competes with slow digestion, teleportation, shape changers, searching, free action, situational resistances, and a lot of other things. | ||
| + | ::# Red dragon scales are available at a throne, but compete with green and silver ones. | ||
| + | ::# 2% of all elvenkings carry a crystal ball, and spellcasters can summon them beyond extinction. | ||
| + | :: As for now, solution number one looks the most feasible. [[User:Tjr|Tjr]] 23:05, September 20, 2010 (UTC) | ||
Revision as of 23:05, 20 September 2010
Monster detection?
I don't think skilled monster detection is a good substitute for telepathy in a foodless game unless you're a Wizard, since casting spells costs nutrition for a non-Wizard. djao 07:04, July 3, 2010 (UTC)
- Good point. Still, it's way better than nothing, and I believe a tourist YAAP first brought this trick to my attention. (Sadly, I can't find the post anymore.) Essentially, even a foodless character with rings of polymorph and polymorph control has access to unlimited nutrition if you can deal with your stats random walking (hint: alchimize potions obtained from throne farming). Tjr 11:18, July 3, 2010 (UTC)
Trap evasion
If you ride a dragon, do you miss all those obnoxious fire traps, or is it just trap doors, holes, pits? If yes, that could double for fire resistance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by tjr (talk • contribs)
- No. You still take full damage. I assume this is for a multi-conduct game? Is it possible to obtain and wield Fire Brand for the fire resistance? Or you could play as a Priest for the Mitre, or a Tourist + crystal ball to detect the traps. -- Qazmlpok 22:21, September 20, 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, I was thinking of Gehennom in a 12-conduct game without bones stuffing (i.e. keeping all tracked conducts). After some discussion on RGRN, I settled on wizards for the starting equipment. Most ways to handle fire traps have some drawbacks:
- Alchemize huge amounts of hit points, and shrug off the loss in max HP. Few monsters have a melee fire attack.
- Fire Brand, if found on the floor, is still a risk to pacifist & weaponless conducts.
- A ring of fire resistance, if found on the floor, competes with slow digestion, teleportation, shape changers, searching, free action, situational resistances, and a lot of other things.
- Red dragon scales are available at a throne, but compete with green and silver ones.
- 2% of all elvenkings carry a crystal ball, and spellcasters can summon them beyond extinction.
- As for now, solution number one looks the most feasible. Tjr 23:05, September 20, 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, I was thinking of Gehennom in a 12-conduct game without bones stuffing (i.e. keeping all tracked conducts). After some discussion on RGRN, I settled on wizards for the starting equipment. Most ways to handle fire traps have some drawbacks:
