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*is there a reason why the monsters on this page are not sorted alphabetically? or at the very least grouped by type and then sorted? also, is there a need for the summaries as well as the detail in the same section? listing of individual dragons as well as "all adult dragon" seems a bit redundant. the list also only contains the vanilla dragons, are the slashem dragons nasty too? should they get their own section? --[[Special:Contributions/195.50.80.61|195.50.80.61]] 11:12, October 6, 2010 (UTC) | *is there a reason why the monsters on this page are not sorted alphabetically? or at the very least grouped by type and then sorted? also, is there a need for the summaries as well as the detail in the same section? listing of individual dragons as well as "all adult dragon" seems a bit redundant. the list also only contains the vanilla dragons, are the slashem dragons nasty too? should they get their own section? --[[Special:Contributions/195.50.80.61|195.50.80.61]] 11:12, October 6, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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Thoughts/complaints? —[[User:bcode|bcode]] <sup>[[User talk:bcode|talk]] | [[Special:EmailUser/Bcode|mail]]</sup> 16:59, 26 November 2012 (UTC) | Thoughts/complaints? —[[User:bcode|bcode]] <sup>[[User talk:bcode|talk]] | [[Special:EmailUser/Bcode|mail]]</sup> 16:59, 26 November 2012 (UTC) | ||
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+ | :Sounds fine to me, as long as each split page has a note at the top. "nasty" should either go to the summon nasty page or a disambiguation page (not the M2_NASTY page). The related source of confusion is the info box on each monster's page. For instance, if you look up [[Archon]], it says that they are "nasty". I assumed that meant that they could be summoned via summon nasties. How could we fix those? [[User:Derekt75|Derekt75]] ([[User talk:Derekt75|talk]]) 05:30, 27 November 2012 (UTC) | ||
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+ | :Rather than use the word [M2_nasty|nasty] in the monster template, do you think it would be clearer to just use [M2_NASTY]? [[User:Derekt75|Derekt75]] ([[User talk:Derekt75|talk]]) 18:29, 28 November 2012 (UTC) | ||
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+ | ::I think we should move this part of the discussion to [[Template talk:Attributes]]. (Your concern is valid, though.) —[[User:bcode|bcode]] <sup>[[User talk:bcode|talk]] | [[Special:EmailUser/Bcode|mail]]</sup> 18:35, 28 November 2012 (UTC) |
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- is there a reason why the monsters on this page are not sorted alphabetically? or at the very least grouped by type and then sorted? also, is there a need for the summaries as well as the detail in the same section? listing of individual dragons as well as "all adult dragon" seems a bit redundant. the list also only contains the vanilla dragons, are the slashem dragons nasty too? should they get their own section? --195.50.80.61 11:12, October 6, 2010 (UTC)
- The list is divided into four sections: Vanilla monsters that can appear from the Summon Nasties spell, monsters in Vanilla with M2_NASTY set, SLASH'EM monsters that can also appear from Summon Nasties, and SLASH'EM monsters that have M2_NASTY. Note that the two lists are actually unrelated; ogre kings, for example, do NOT have M2_NASTY. The order of the Summon Nasties monsters matches that of the array in Wizard.c (line 26). As far as I can tell the order has no effect whatsoever on what gets generated, so it's probably just in that order so it matches Wizard.c. -- Qazmlpok 12:11, October 6, 2010 (UTC)
Splitting the page
The fact that the summon nasties-nasties and the M2_NASTY-nasties are both called "nasties" tends to cause confusion. I'd like to split this page (which is mostly a list, anyway) into two because of that; it'd probably make sense for the list of "summoned" nasties to be on the summon nasties page, I think. The "flag" nasties could be left on this page, ideally with a note
- For "nasties" summoned by spellcasters, see summon nasties.
at the top. Alternatively, this page could be moved to M2_NASTY and nasty would be either a redirect to one of them or a disambiguation page (though people are probably more likely to search for information about summon nasties).
Thoughts/complaints? —bcode talk | mail 16:59, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
- Sounds fine to me, as long as each split page has a note at the top. "nasty" should either go to the summon nasty page or a disambiguation page (not the M2_NASTY page). The related source of confusion is the info box on each monster's page. For instance, if you look up Archon, it says that they are "nasty". I assumed that meant that they could be summoned via summon nasties. How could we fix those? Derekt75 (talk) 05:30, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
- Rather than use the word [M2_nasty|nasty] in the monster template, do you think it would be clearer to just use [M2_NASTY]? Derekt75 (talk) 18:29, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
- I think we should move this part of the discussion to Template talk:Attributes. (Your concern is valid, though.) —bcode talk | mail 18:35, 28 November 2012 (UTC)