Talk:Planetar and Solar

The article claims these monsters cannot be encountered before the Amulet. However, I encountered a planetar once in Vlad's tower. I'm not changing the article because I'm not an expert on SLASH'EM -Tjr 20:49, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

You're right, that would be possible, just as it's possible to encounter an Archon in Vlad's Tower in vanilla NetHack. I still don't think it would be possible to see a Solar there though - with a difficulty of 49, a level 30 character would have to be at level 58 to see one, which is generally the level of Moloch's Sanctum in SLASH'EM. I changed the article to reflect that you can see them there, and also possibly in Frankenstein's Lab (I know I've seen devas there, it's also not Gehennom). -Ion frigate 05:16, January 2, 2010 (UTC)

Capitalization

I'm not going to just move it back without discussing, but Archon, Angel, Planetar and Solar are all capitalized in the source code. They do not have the "proper name" attribute (which is for monsters whose names omit the definite article), but they are capitalized. A similar example is the Norn; it's actually just "Norn" in the source code, without being called a proper name. See SLASH'EM 0.0.7E7F2/monst.c#line1970 -Ion frigate 05:37, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

On the one hand, you have a point. On the other hand, archon, angel, planetar, and solar are all not proper nouns in the English language sense. Instead, they all fall under "common names of plants and animals except proper nouns and adjectives" and should be lower-cased. So both sides can be argued. The style guide is silent on this. I'm not going to insist on it either way, but I do very much like it consistent. -Tjr 22:53, February 25, 2010 (UTC)