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:This happened to me in my last SLASH'EM game. I encountered my ghost in a bones, and in the middle of fighting it, I suddenly got the "drawn into..." message and the ghost disappeared. I assume that what happened then was the corpse 'revived' as a mold, as I didn't zap do anything to revive the corpse myself. -- [[User:Qazmlpok|Qazmlpok]] 16:22, September 12, 2010 (UTC)
 
:This happened to me in my last SLASH'EM game. I encountered my ghost in a bones, and in the middle of fighting it, I suddenly got the "drawn into..." message and the ghost disappeared. I assume that what happened then was the corpse 'revived' as a mold, as I didn't zap do anything to revive the corpse myself. -- [[User:Qazmlpok|Qazmlpok]] 16:22, September 12, 2010 (UTC)
 
::Very interesting. I have been trying to replicate it but have been unable to do so thus far. I have tried in Wizard mode in both Nethack and SLASH'EM creating bones levels with the "Wizard" name starting at levels 4,5,6 and so on and then engaging them in combat. I only ever end up killing them sadly. I tried the same thing in a non-wizard setting with identical sets of characters (name, alignment, race etc), even so I stll end up just killing them even in drawn out combat of me kicking them to (re)death. I'm probably missing something.  thanks for your input. [[User:Strongsauce1|Strongsauce1]] 19:00, September 12, 2010 (UTC)
 
::Very interesting. I have been trying to replicate it but have been unable to do so thus far. I have tried in Wizard mode in both Nethack and SLASH'EM creating bones levels with the "Wizard" name starting at levels 4,5,6 and so on and then engaging them in combat. I only ever end up killing them sadly. I tried the same thing in a non-wizard setting with identical sets of characters (name, alignment, race etc), even so I stll end up just killing them even in drawn out combat of me kicking them to (re)death. I'm probably missing something.  thanks for your input. [[User:Strongsauce1|Strongsauce1]] 19:00, September 12, 2010 (UTC)
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:::Try reviving the corpse instead of kicking the ghost. It only happened spontaneously in SLASH'EM because most corpses have a large chance of turning into molds/fungi. Honestly I'd consider the ghost being drawn into the fungus a bug. -- [[User:Qazmlpok|Qazmlpok]] 19:12, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

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I'm sure this has been posted many a time before, but I found this interesting block of code in zap.c, line 648:

			if (obj->oxlth && (obj->oattached == OATTACHED_M_ID)) {
			    unsigned m_id;
			    struct monst *ghost;
			    (void) memcpy((genericptr_t)&m_id,
				    (genericptr_t)obj->oextra, sizeof(m_id));
			    ghost = find_mid(m_id, FM_FMON);
		    	    if (ghost && ghost->data == &mons[PM_GHOST]) {
		    		    int x2, y2;
		    		    x2 = ghost->mx; y2 = ghost->my;
		    		    if (ghost->mtame)
		    		    	savetame = ghost->mtame;
		    		    if (canseemon(ghost))
		    		  	pline("%s is suddenly drawn into its former body!",
						Monnam(ghost));
				    mondead(ghost);
				    recorporealization = TRUE;
				    newsym(x2, y2);

It sounds like you can (or the code is in there for it to be done) for a ghost corpse (?) to be recorporealized? Is there any in game situation where this may happen? I tried using Turn Undead on ghosts - obviously this just did damage to them. I also tried turning stone to flesh on ghost figurines and statues, but that predictably created meatballs. Is this something for bone levels (is it possible to force a bones level in Wizard mode by chance?)

Thought that I'd share this. Strongsauce1 16:03, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

If you revive the corpse in a bones level, the ghost is removed as the former player revives. Interestingly, if you tame the ghost first, the game will attempt to tame the resulting player monster, although this will only make the monster peaceful if it was a human. This also doesn't create a player monster, but rather a generic human/elf/gnome/dwarf/orc.
This happened to me in my last SLASH'EM game. I encountered my ghost in a bones, and in the middle of fighting it, I suddenly got the "drawn into..." message and the ghost disappeared. I assume that what happened then was the corpse 'revived' as a mold, as I didn't zap do anything to revive the corpse myself. -- Qazmlpok 16:22, September 12, 2010 (UTC)
Very interesting. I have been trying to replicate it but have been unable to do so thus far. I have tried in Wizard mode in both Nethack and SLASH'EM creating bones levels with the "Wizard" name starting at levels 4,5,6 and so on and then engaging them in combat. I only ever end up killing them sadly. I tried the same thing in a non-wizard setting with identical sets of characters (name, alignment, race etc), even so I stll end up just killing them even in drawn out combat of me kicking them to (re)death. I'm probably missing something. thanks for your input. Strongsauce1 19:00, September 12, 2010 (UTC)
Try reviving the corpse instead of kicking the ghost. It only happened spontaneously in SLASH'EM because most corpses have a large chance of turning into molds/fungi. Honestly I'd consider the ghost being drawn into the fungus a bug. -- Qazmlpok 19:12, September 12, 2010 (UTC)