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Monster Oddities
A while ago, I carried out the "great reflagging" in dNethack, which required me to examine each creature individually and sort its tags into the new categories. This close scrutiny revealed a number of oddities, which in some cases may be purposeful, but in other cases may be oversights.
Per-letter oddities
- a
- Note many weights seem wrong here, see below.
- b
- c
- d
- e
- spheres have eyes despite being balls of explosive energy.
- Cold spheres and vortexes are infravisible. Do they stand out dark against the background? Should other cold creatures also have this?
- f
- Why is a jaguar weaker than a lynx?
- Why are jaguars and panthers weaker than large domestic cats?
- Why do lynx have a 1d10 bite attack?
- g
- h
- i
- Homunculi are not listed as being humanoid when they probably should be,
- imps and quasits can't fly, even though they are based on the D&D creatures which can,
- Homunculi CAN fly, the D&D version also can but I think that is a D&Dism
- j
- k
- l
- m
- n
- o
- p
- q
- mumak damage is *really high* for a 5th level monster. Compare mumak (4d12) to titanothere (2d8). Given the source material, it's probably the level that is wrong, not the damage.
- Why do rothes have a claw/claw/bite attack routine? They seem to originate from D&D, where they are underground bison-type things.
- r
- Rats are flaged as carnivores?
- s
- t
- u
- v
- Cold spheres and vortexes are infravisible. Do they stand out dark against the background? Should other cold creatures also have this?
- Energy vortexes are not infravisible?
- w
- x
- y
- z
- A
- Couatls are marked as infravisible. They are feathered serpents, maybe they should be cold blooded?
- B
- Bats are listed as carnivores, except for vampire bats which are listed as omnivores
- Note: While this is probably true for real vampire bats, nethack vampire bats are literal vampires
- Bats are listed as carnivores, except for vampire bats which are listed as omnivores
- C
- D
- E
- F
- G
- H
- Why are fire giants lawful, when Lord Surtur is strongly Chaotic?
- I
- J
- K
- L
- M
- Why are gnome mummies red and kobold mummies red?
- N
- O
- P
- Q
- R
- S
- T
- U
- V
- W
- X
- Y
- Z
- Ghouls are listed after giant zombies, despite being lower difficulty
- @
- Doppelgangers are M2_human?
- Medusa has MR_STON, but can be petrified by her own reflected gaze anyway?
- <ilbelkyr> in vanilla at least, abbot corpses are hallucinogenic
- &
- Horned devils have sting attacks instead of horn attacks?
- Tail is standard for D&D, but creature is incredibly weak if it's based on D&D
- Horned devils can't fly, while the D&D creature can fly
- vrocks (vulture demons) can't fly
- Several demon types aren't listed as HUMANOID, despite most demons probably qualifying.
- jellyfish are slithy?
- and not mindless?
- Horned devils have sting attacks instead of horn attacks?
mhitu Oddities
- Even fire resistant straw golems etc are burned up?
- And a non-fire-resistant polymorphed player with unchanging will not die from being burned up.
- Being covered in acid from an attack does not harm your armor
- Engulfed electrical attacks don't harm your stuff?
- Engulfed acid attack also doesn't harm armor
- Cold melee attacks don't trigger golem effects vs you?
- Ditto Fire
- Do players with AT_BOOM attacks actually boom?
Weight and nutrition vs MZ_ size is off globally
These are the worst offenders:
- giant beetles (which I believe were the size of a large horse, but which give less nutrition than a fortune cookie)
- gelatinous cubes
- dogs
- winter wolves
- large felines
- baby dragons
- nagas
- rust monsters vs disenchanters
- Ghosts weigh as much as humans?
- The various M3_ covetous-monster-behavior flags must fit within the STRAT_GOAL mask (0x000000ffL), but they are defined in different headers and there is no comment in either place noting the connection.
Polymorph handling
- Headless players can wear helms?
