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'''Price identification''' is the tactic of using the price of an [[item]] to try to identify it. One can use the "buy price", the price of an item in [[shop]]s, or the "sell price", the price that a [[shopkeeper]] offers when you try to sell an item. The sell price is easier to use because it is not affected by your [[charisma]].  It will normally be half the "base price" of the item; there is a random chance that you will only be offered 3/4 of the normal sell price, but you can get around this by repeatedly dropping an item and refusing to sell it, until you have been offered two different prices for it.  [[General store]]s are very useful for price identification because they will offer to buy all types of items.
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'''Price identification''' is the tactic of using the price of an [[item]] to try to identify it. One can use the "buy price", the price of an item in [[shop]]s, or the "sell price", the price that a [[shopkeeper]] offers when you try to sell an item. The sell price is easier to use because it is not affected by your [[charisma]].
  
The item which is most commonly price-ided is the [[scroll of identify]], which is far cheaper than the other scrolls.  Also, [[magic lamp]]s cost more than oil lamps, and enchanted armour costs more than the +0 version.
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It will normally be half the "base price" of the item; there is a random chance that you will only be offered 3/4 of the normal sell price, but you can get around this by repeatedly [[Drop|[d]ropping]] an item and refusing to sell it, until you have been offered two different prices for it.
  
An expensive wand (base price 500 GP) is either wishing or death.  If you have no pet to steal it for you, and you're not concerned about the consequences of killing shopkeepers, try zapping it at the shopkeeper. If it's death, fine.  If it's wishing, wish for 2 blessed scrolls of charging and a wand of death, then zap the shopkeeper. '''Caution:''' if you do this, be sure either to use the wishes before killing the shopkeeper, or save the wishes for later. Don't use a wish immediately after killing a shopkeeper, because (unless you are chaotic) killing a shopkeeper reduces your [[luck]].
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[[General store]]s are very useful for price identification because they will offer to buy all types of items.
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== Further strategies ==
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=== Common uses ===
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The item which is most commonly price-ided is the [[scroll of identify]], which is far cheaper than the other scrolls.
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Also, [[magic lamp]]s cost more than [[oil lamp|oil lamps]], and [[Enchantment#Armor|enchanted armour]] costs more than the +0 version.
  
 
Price-iding can also be useful to identify bad items.  The [[scroll of amnesia]] has a base price of 200 GP, ten times as much as a scroll of identify.  A potion of sickness has a base price of 50 GP, a potion of hallucination 100 GP, and a potion of blindness 150 GP.
 
Price-iding can also be useful to identify bad items.  The [[scroll of amnesia]] has a base price of 200 GP, ten times as much as a scroll of identify.  A potion of sickness has a base price of 50 GP, a potion of hallucination 100 GP, and a potion of blindness 150 GP.
  
http://www.spod-central.org/~psmith/nh/tabs-343.txt lists the base price of every single item.
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=== Powerful wands stealing ===
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An expensive [[wand]] (base price 500 [[zm]]) is either [[Wand of wishing|wishing]] or [[Wand of death|death]]. If you have no pet to steal it for you, and you're not concerned about the consequences of killing shopkeepers, try zapping it at the shopkeeper. If it's death, fine. If it's wishing, wish for 2 blessed scrolls of charging and a wand of death, then zap the shopkeeper. '''Caution:''' if you do this, be sure either to use the wishes before killing the shopkeeper, or save the wishes for later. Don't use a wish immediately after killing a shopkeeper, because (unless you are chaotic) killing a shopkeeper reduces your [[luck]].
  
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*[http://hispeed.tty1.com/nh-helper/nh-helper/nh-helper.html HiSPeed's Nethack Helper] is a handful tool to find out the base price starting from the Shopkeeper's responses.
 
*[http://hispeed.tty1.com/nh-helper/nh-helper/nh-helper.html HiSPeed's Nethack Helper] is a handful tool to find out the base price starting from the Shopkeeper's responses.
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*The [http://www.spod-central.org/~psmith/nh/tabs-343.txt consolidated item tables] lists the base price of every single item.
  
 
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Revision as of 03:30, 11 November 2006

Price identification is the tactic of using the price of an item to try to identify it. One can use the "buy price", the price of an item in shops, or the "sell price", the price that a shopkeeper offers when you try to sell an item. The sell price is easier to use because it is not affected by your charisma.

It will normally be half the "base price" of the item; there is a random chance that you will only be offered 3/4 of the normal sell price, but you can get around this by repeatedly [d]ropping an item and refusing to sell it, until you have been offered two different prices for it.

General stores are very useful for price identification because they will offer to buy all types of items.

Further strategies

Common uses

The item which is most commonly price-ided is the scroll of identify, which is far cheaper than the other scrolls.

Also, magic lamps cost more than oil lamps, and enchanted armour costs more than the +0 version.

Price-iding can also be useful to identify bad items. The scroll of amnesia has a base price of 200 GP, ten times as much as a scroll of identify. A potion of sickness has a base price of 50 GP, a potion of hallucination 100 GP, and a potion of blindness 150 GP.

Powerful wands stealing

An expensive wand (base price 500 zm) is either wishing or death. If you have no pet to steal it for you, and you're not concerned about the consequences of killing shopkeepers, try zapping it at the shopkeeper. If it's death, fine. If it's wishing, wish for 2 blessed scrolls of charging and a wand of death, then zap the shopkeeper. Caution: if you do this, be sure either to use the wishes before killing the shopkeeper, or save the wishes for later. Don't use a wish immediately after killing a shopkeeper, because (unless you are chaotic) killing a shopkeeper reduces your luck.


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