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Aligned priests, shopkeepers, and hostile minions are completely untamable even with the fun SLASH'EM polymorph trick. Are there any other untamable monsters? I know that the demon princes and medusa are easily tamed. What about the Wizard of Yendor? In Vanilla it's possible to wiz-mode monster create a tame Wizard of Yendor (and not a shopkeeper/priest), but I can't polymorph him even with level drain. Can a Genetic Engineer polymorph the wizard? I'd test this myself but I don't have SLASH'EM installed. I get the feeling he'd make a useless pet, but it might be a good method of keeping him from reappearing. -- [[User:Qazmlpok|Qazmlpok]] 19:21, April 10, 2010 (UTC)
 
Aligned priests, shopkeepers, and hostile minions are completely untamable even with the fun SLASH'EM polymorph trick. Are there any other untamable monsters? I know that the demon princes and medusa are easily tamed. What about the Wizard of Yendor? In Vanilla it's possible to wiz-mode monster create a tame Wizard of Yendor (and not a shopkeeper/priest), but I can't polymorph him even with level drain. Can a Genetic Engineer polymorph the wizard? I'd test this myself but I don't have SLASH'EM installed. I get the feeling he'd make a useless pet, but it might be a good method of keeping him from reappearing. -- [[User:Qazmlpok|Qazmlpok]] 19:21, April 10, 2010 (UTC)
 
:I went ahead and tried this in wizard mode, and this is what I found: You can polymorph the wizard, but he remains untameable (I tried dozens of times casting charm monster with a level 30 wizard).  However, he does at least stay polymorphed for around ~1000 turns, and will reappear in his polymorphed form during that time.  Also, he continues to be able to follow you from level to level while polymorphed.  I suppose this could be useful to make him less dangerous for a while, though it seems a wand of death would be a simpler and more effective option.  I guess for a pacifist, though, it could be easier to just polymorph him. -[[User:Ion frigate|Ion frigate]] 19:42, April 11, 2010 (UTC)
 
:I went ahead and tried this in wizard mode, and this is what I found: You can polymorph the wizard, but he remains untameable (I tried dozens of times casting charm monster with a level 30 wizard).  However, he does at least stay polymorphed for around ~1000 turns, and will reappear in his polymorphed form during that time.  Also, he continues to be able to follow you from level to level while polymorphed.  I suppose this could be useful to make him less dangerous for a while, though it seems a wand of death would be a simpler and more effective option.  I guess for a pacifist, though, it could be easier to just polymorph him. -[[User:Ion frigate|Ion frigate]] 19:42, April 11, 2010 (UTC)
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::In vanilla, you can slime him (polyself or feed wraith to your pet slime). This incarnation of him then permanently stays polymorphed, but still follows you up stairs and cannot even be pacified. -[[User:Tjr|Tjr]] 22:15, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

Revision as of 22:15, 11 April 2010

Do we want blatant self-references to wiki markup in main pages?

Unless I'm very much mistaken, we don't really want self-references like

The wiki markup [[pet (SLASH'EM)|]] will expand to [[pet (SLASH'EM)|pet]] and produce a link to this page.

in articles.

Unless there are any objections, I will remove this (nevertheless helpful) advice to a more appropriate place.

--Rogerb-on-NAO 21:25, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

chamilions

It deserves mentioning that you can have a pet chamilion too, by feeding it when it is in the form of something domesticated. It really works. 169.231.6.189 18:55, March 10, 2010 (UTC)

True, but that also works in normal nethack to tame chameleons. Perhaps it's worth mentioning that the reversion-instead-of-death property makes shapeshifters more useful pets in general in SLASH'EM, though. -Ion frigate 20:21, March 10, 2010 (UTC)

Untamable pets

Aligned priests, shopkeepers, and hostile minions are completely untamable even with the fun SLASH'EM polymorph trick. Are there any other untamable monsters? I know that the demon princes and medusa are easily tamed. What about the Wizard of Yendor? In Vanilla it's possible to wiz-mode monster create a tame Wizard of Yendor (and not a shopkeeper/priest), but I can't polymorph him even with level drain. Can a Genetic Engineer polymorph the wizard? I'd test this myself but I don't have SLASH'EM installed. I get the feeling he'd make a useless pet, but it might be a good method of keeping him from reappearing. -- Qazmlpok 19:21, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

I went ahead and tried this in wizard mode, and this is what I found: You can polymorph the wizard, but he remains untameable (I tried dozens of times casting charm monster with a level 30 wizard). However, he does at least stay polymorphed for around ~1000 turns, and will reappear in his polymorphed form during that time. Also, he continues to be able to follow you from level to level while polymorphed. I suppose this could be useful to make him less dangerous for a while, though it seems a wand of death would be a simpler and more effective option. I guess for a pacifist, though, it could be easier to just polymorph him. -Ion frigate 19:42, April 11, 2010 (UTC)
In vanilla, you can slime him (polyself or feed wraith to your pet slime). This incarnation of him then permanently stays polymorphed, but still follows you up stairs and cannot even be pacified. -Tjr 22:15, April 11, 2010 (UTC)