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Does anyone know, if you assume absolutely ideal conditions (shortest dungeon possible, poly'd into an air elemental except to read the Book, no monsters in the way, using levelporting/teleporting where possible, etc) what the fastest possible ascension would be? It seems that it shouldn't be random - if you let a monster carry the Amulet for you, the mysterious force shouldn't be a problem, and so you could always teleport between staircases. Of course you have to add a turn then to kill the monster carrying the Amulet, but that's probably still faster than it could be otherwise (given that levels in the Dungeon proper can't have adjacent staircases, teleportation will always save you at least a turn, even in constructed, highly improbable "ideal" circumstances) -[[User:Ion frigate|Ion frigate]] 04:01, 1 June 2011 (UTC) | Does anyone know, if you assume absolutely ideal conditions (shortest dungeon possible, poly'd into an air elemental except to read the Book, no monsters in the way, using levelporting/teleporting where possible, etc) what the fastest possible ascension would be? It seems that it shouldn't be random - if you let a monster carry the Amulet for you, the mysterious force shouldn't be a problem, and so you could always teleport between staircases. Of course you have to add a turn then to kill the monster carrying the Amulet, but that's probably still faster than it could be otherwise (given that levels in the Dungeon proper can't have adjacent staircases, teleportation will always save you at least a turn, even in constructed, highly improbable "ideal" circumstances) -[[User:Ion frigate|Ion frigate]] 04:01, 1 June 2011 (UTC) | ||
| + | :The only strict minimum is 2000 turns, as before that you cannot have enough alignment to do the quest and thus the invocation. It's perfectly possible to map out every level and obtain the candellabrum, 7 candles, and the book of the dead in this time (I believe one of Maud's near-2000 turn ascension details this in RGRN). So you need enough time to do the quest, a few turns to get the amulet using Asmodeus or another demon, then at least two movements per level to go up the stairs. Then the elemental planes and all. -- [[User:Qazmlpok|Qazmlpok]] 12:17, 1 June 2011 (UTC) | ||
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Could someone with moderate experience with speed runs please post some "typical" times of some milestones, in order to set myself goals? I am thinking of something like
- found mines by ... turns
- buying/stealing/price-id in mine town by ... turns
- stack of holy water by ... turns
- crowned / intrinsics
- luckstone by ... turns
- found quest by ... turns
- completed castle by 12k turns
- start quest by ... turns
- complete quest by ... turns
- pre-gehennom prepratations ...
- wake up wizard by 20k turns
- ascend by ...
-Tjr 01:01, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
After some moderate experience, a few rough targets:
- Got digging tool by turn 500.
- Do price ID and have a plan for Medusa's titan.
- Then dig down straight, collecting/stealing as many scrolls and eggs/tripe as possible.
- Got wand of wishing by turn 1500.
- Reverse genocide unicorns for Luck. Wish for polymorph control, a wand of polymorph, and bazillions of magic markers to write charging with. Write spellbooks of detect monsters, magic mapping, sleep, remove curse, confuse monster.
- Dig / phase through Gehennom, mapping each level, recharging power as needed. Get the amulet of life saving, the Candelabrum, Rodney's book, and the vibrating square.
- Level teleport to the quest. Teleport control is gained by reverse genociding wraith or by turning into a tengu.
- Ascend by turn 6000.
Fastest possible
Does anyone know, if you assume absolutely ideal conditions (shortest dungeon possible, poly'd into an air elemental except to read the Book, no monsters in the way, using levelporting/teleporting where possible, etc) what the fastest possible ascension would be? It seems that it shouldn't be random - if you let a monster carry the Amulet for you, the mysterious force shouldn't be a problem, and so you could always teleport between staircases. Of course you have to add a turn then to kill the monster carrying the Amulet, but that's probably still faster than it could be otherwise (given that levels in the Dungeon proper can't have adjacent staircases, teleportation will always save you at least a turn, even in constructed, highly improbable "ideal" circumstances) -Ion frigate 04:01, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
- The only strict minimum is 2000 turns, as before that you cannot have enough alignment to do the quest and thus the invocation. It's perfectly possible to map out every level and obtain the candellabrum, 7 candles, and the book of the dead in this time (I believe one of Maud's near-2000 turn ascension details this in RGRN). So you need enough time to do the quest, a few turns to get the amulet using Asmodeus or another demon, then at least two movements per level to go up the stairs. Then the elemental planes and all. -- Qazmlpok 12:17, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
