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::There are [[ring of protection from shape changers|rings of protection from shape changers]], but they will not show you the monster whose form the shapechanger would normally assume.
 
::There are [[ring of protection from shape changers|rings of protection from shape changers]], but they will not show you the monster whose form the shapechanger would normally assume.
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:::Thanks! [[User:Bulwersator|Bulwersator]] ([[User talk:Bulwersator|talk]]) 16:57, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
 
::(By the way, the usual way to indent replies on this wiki is using <tt>:</tt>, not <tt>*</tt>. Using <tt>:</tt> on talk pages will be highlighted.) —[[User:bcode|bcode]]&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:bcode|talk]]&nbsp;|&nbsp;[[Special:EmailUser/Bcode|mail]]</sup> 17:19, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
 
::(By the way, the usual way to indent replies on this wiki is using <tt>:</tt>, not <tt>*</tt>. Using <tt>:</tt> on talk pages will be highlighted.) —[[User:bcode|bcode]]&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:bcode|talk]]&nbsp;|&nbsp;[[Special:EmailUser/Bcode|mail]]</sup> 17:19, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
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:::OK, I will try to remember this [[User:Bulwersator|Bulwersator]] ([[User talk:Bulwersator|talk]]) 16:57, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
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::I thought that wished-for statue and stoned unique monster behaves in the same way - now I see what is happening. [[User:Bulwersator|Bulwersator]] ([[User talk:Bulwersator|talk]]) 16:57, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

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C342-54

The bug, unless I (and Grunt) misunderstand it, is that a statue of a unique monster, if left in a bones file, may be turned into the unique monster using stone to flesh or a statue trap. This is inconsistent as normally, some of these monsters are removed from bones, including their corpses (which could be revived).

There is also the possiblity of generating the unique monster (say, Medusa on her level), then using stone to flesh on the statue to have two instances of the "unique" monster simultaneously present in your game. If you then turn both of these into statues and leave them in a bones file and that bones file is loaded, that game may have three Medusas, etc.

I'm not sure why you "see no need" for GruntHack's fix (which actually only seems to fix it for specific monsters); it's consistent with wished-for statues of unique monsters, which will also turn into a doppelganger. —bcode talk | mail 16:40, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

  • Hm. Is there any way to check whatever something is a monster X or a chameleon/doppelganger pretending to be a monster X? Wand of probing is not able to do this Bulwersator (talk) 17:11, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
There are rings of protection from shape changers, but they will not show you the monster whose form the shapechanger would normally assume.
Thanks! Bulwersator (talk) 16:57, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
(By the way, the usual way to indent replies on this wiki is using :, not *. Using : on talk pages will be highlighted.) —bcode talk | mail 17:19, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
OK, I will try to remember this Bulwersator (talk) 16:57, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
I thought that wished-for statue and stoned unique monster behaves in the same way - now I see what is happening. Bulwersator (talk) 16:57, 27 March 2013 (UTC)