Talk:Rogue level

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Lower case monsters?

Odd thing happened on the Rogue level today. I tried to open a + door and received the message, "The door actually was a small mimic!" The mimic was then portrayed by the lower-case "m", something I had not thought possible with the Rogue level. Is it possible that this was a mimic which had fallen in a hole in the level above or something equally unexpected, or did the game actually spawn a lower-case monster? Delbow 03:09, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

I'm surprised that you even saw a +; real doors aren't supposed to appear on the Rogue level. Perhaps the DevTeam needs to know.——Ray Chason 05:13, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
It's bug C343-34. --Tjr 11:39, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Troll corpses

Somebody removed my clarification: "Trolls, however, will still rise if you bring along their corpse." Due to Source:Mon.c#line1548, trolls never leave a corpse on the Rogue level. So the only source of troll corpses is the player (or his pets) who might carry one. I believe the short version "however, trolls will still rise" is prone to misunderstandings: somebody could think trolls are an exception that leaves corpses.

If there is no discussion here until June 7, I am going to reinsert my clarification. --Tjr (talk) 18:28, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Given the absence of discussion, I readded the clarification, but generalized it a bit; another source would be a wished-for troll corpse, for example. (A troll wish in more than one way, but what matters is that it can happen – "bring along" seems to imply it had been somewhere else before and it came to the level with the player.) I agree on the misunderstandability of the shortened version. —bcode talk | mail 06:38, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
I also agree, after reading old version I thought that it means that trolls will rise despite leaving no corpse Bulwersator (talk) 09:02, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Special Tileset for the Rogue level?

When playing NetHack 5.0.0 and getting to the Rogue level, it seems the tileset changes. It appears to change to something ASCII-like, with the player represented by a Wingdings smiley. Has anyone else looked into this? --Fenrir Wolfiepup (talk) 04:00, 10 October 2026 (UTC)

That is in fact wholly intentional, yes. Honestly, on us for not adding a visual representation sooner, thankfully Ray's taken care of that in part. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 14:36, 10 October 2026 (UTC)