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There's no need to sample a role's starting equipment when you can just check in u_init.c to find what the actual starting equipment is. It happens to be the following: (u_init.c#line153, u_init.c#line719)

The sword, dagger and shield have UNDEF_BLESS, so their BUC should be randomly determined, as though the item had been randomly placed. Check mkobj.c#mksobj if you want to figure out the exact probabilities. -- Killian 23:29, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Correction: u_init.c#ini_inv automatically sets cursed items to uncursed, so you won't start with cursed gear. -- Killian 23:11, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Strategy expansion

I added a few items to the strategy section. It seems to me that Mjollnir gets a lot of stick from the original author(s), and I wanted to tone that down a bit. I've ascended two Valkyries armed with Excallibur for most jobs and Mjollnir for when you want that little extra something. It may not be absolutely optimal play, but it's adequate, simple and straightforward--like the Valkyrie herself. Mjollnir serves a relative novice (like me) very well.-- 17:48, 25 January 2008 (UTC) Hmm. Got signed out somehow.--Ckbryant 18:09, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Why does Lord redirect here?

I was hoping it would redirect to a page that explains what lord to other monsters means, or at least a directory of monster lords 04:07, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

"Lord" can be a Valkyrie rank name (for a level 30 sex-changed Valk), which is presumably the reason for the redirect. But I'd like to see an explanation of "Overlord to its kind" too. Maybe I'll start a stub page for it under "overlord," in the hopes that someone will explain what is going on. -- 12:10, July 24, 2010 (UTC)


I added a bunch of stuff to the strategy section and split it into early, middle, and late game. Please post here if you have any thoughts on the change. Scorchgeek (talk) 04:18, 2 December 2012 (UTC)