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Watchlists missing on new wiki

If you just came here from Wikia, you may have noticed that your watchlist is empty. Apparently, the MediaWikiAuth extension doesn't import it automatically. However, you can fix the problem easily:

1. Go to Special:Watchlist/raw at Wikia. If you're logged in, you should see a textbox listing the contents of your watchlist on the old wiki. Select it all and copy it to your clipboard.
2. Go to the corresponding page on the new wiki and paste in what you just copied. Then click "Update watchlist".

Happy hacking! --Ilmari Karonen 01:08, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

PS. It looks like user preferences don't get imported either, even though the documentation says they should be. Alas, I know of no such easy shortcut to fixing that. --Ilmari Karonen 01:18, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

We need a new logo

Logo suggestion by Ilmari Karonen

Since we're no longer at Wikia, the current logo (which spells "wiki@") seems a bit inappropriate. We should pick a new one. To kick things off, here's my quick suggestion based on the old idea (monsters spelling out the name of the site). There's also an SVG version, although the SVG renderer here makes an awful mess of it. --Ilmari Karonen 02:12, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Looking good! :) Could be a bit less rainbow'ish, though, but that's just my opinion. —ZeroOne (talk / @) 09:05, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

I think it's pretty much perfect. Looks like happy and colourful and ... oh my god they're tearing me apart, help help! --paxed 10:42, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Problems on this Wiki

There are still some problems that I need to fix:

• SVG renderer (See eg. Nethackwiki-logo.svg). I know nothing about this, so need to take a look how to fix it.
  • See mw:Manual:Image Administration#SVG. Basically you need to pick a renderer, install it and set $wgSVGConverter. As for the renderers, rsvg is fast but not very good, though still much better than ImageMagick. It's what Wikipedia uses. Inkscape is better, but note the home directory issue. --Ilmari Karonen 07:48, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
• Forums (eg. Forum:Watercooler) require an extension or two. I'll install the extension(s) later today.
  • CreateBox-extension installed, and it seems to work. DPLforum-extension doesn't work? --paxed 11:14, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
• User watchlists, emails, etc. settings are not imported from Wikia. This is hard, so not worth the effort, most likely.
  • See partial workaround above. --Ilmari Karonen 07:48, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

• Non-image files did not get moved from Wikia. Need to reupload.
  • Let me know if you need help with this, I should be able to kluge together some scripts to do it. --Ilmari Karonen 07:48, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
    • There aren't that many of those files, so possible to do it by hand. OTOH, if you have the time to help, I wouldn't say no; this is My First MW Installation, after all... Talk to me on IRC, freenode, channel #nethackwiki --paxed 07:58, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
      • I just checked, and it seems we had a total of five of these, of which the last one has already been fixed. The others can't be uploaded until their extensions have been added to $wgFileExtensions. --Ilmari Karonen 08:02, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
        • They're all fixed now. --Ilmari Karonen 08:37, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
          • Might want to install mw:Extension:PdfHandler so those PDF files can be thumbnailed. --Ilmari Karonen 08:40, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Please add any problems you notice to here. --paxed 07:12, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

• The e-mail this user feature is not enabled, and neither is e-mail notification on talk page changes. I'd suggest setting both $wgEnableUserEmail and $wgEnotifUserTalk true. --Ilmari Karonen 08:23, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
  • Actually, e-mail notification does seem to be enabled. Not sure why I thought it wasn't. --Ilmari Karonen 11:14, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
• We've got a bunch of missing templates that should be imported. --Ilmari Karonen 08:37, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
• The license selector on Special:Upload (which comes from MediaWiki:Licenses IIRC) is empty. Should put some actual licensing options there. --Ilmari Karonen 08:55, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
• Which reminds me, NethackWiki:Copyrights is outdated. I assume we got relicensed to CC-BY-SA-3.0 along with the rest of Wikia, but the page still says we're GFDL. --Ilmari Karonen 08:55, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
• There's a minor annoyance at Special:Preferences: you are listed as belonging to a group called "wikian". That's clearly not appropriate as we are not in Wikia anymore. —ZeroOne (talk / @) 09:00, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
  • If it tracks users with pre-move accounts, how about calling it "converted wikians"?
    • Good idea. That's how it's shown now. --Ilmari Karonen 11:34, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

I'll add my scoop of todos:

• examine all outgoing [url ]-style links
• Fix all occurences of wikia, wikihack etc, including in the interface text
• Capitalization: NetHackWiki
• poll on the old wiki: why aren't you at the new site?
• http://domain/title should redirect to http://domain/wiki/title
• collapse multiple edits to the same page on RecentChanges
• import wikimedia help, or interwiki-source wholesale
• missing edit button, eg http://nethackwiki.com/mediawiki-1.16.0/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Deletereason-dropdown&action=edit
• autocompletion popup when typing [[ ]]
• make font larger
• long list of editing work
• create good content for other wikis that links to Nethack. (But I already annoyed the D&D people.)

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/NetHack, http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/NetHack, http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/index.php?search=nethack&fulltext=0, http://archive.gamespy.com/legacy/halloffame/nethack_a.shtm, http://adom.wikia.com/wiki/Links

• Wikipedia should link to us, including all languages, all cite notes unrelated pages etc.
  • We could even ask to be added to the Wikimedia interwiki map. --Ilmari Karonen 11:46, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
• traffic monitoring here
• traffic monitoring on the old site: people how do come, from where and why?

Tjr 09:54, 10 November 2010 (UTC)