Talk:Monsters with hits creatures as a +x weapon (SLASH'EM)

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Is this SLASH'EM specific? If yes, the article should be moved to "$Name (SLASH'EM)" and the article should say so. -14:44, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

The article is "$Name (SLASH'EM)" as of now, but I suggest to remove the "(SLASH'EM)". Most SLASH'EM articles (need +x weapon to hit, magic candle, whetstone, and so on) have no "SLASH'EM" in their titles. I guess that "$Name (SLASH'EM)" is only necessary when "$Name" exists as a different article, as happens with pet (SLASH'EM) versus pet. --Kernigh (talk) 02:50, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

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A comment at mhitm.c:1002, version 0.0.7E7F3, states, "a monster that needs a +1 weapon to hit it hits as a +1 weapon." I believe that all monsters on the other list, Monsters with need +x weapon to hit, also belong on this list, but now they are absent. --Kernigh (talk) 02:50, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I just confirmed that with a vampire mage and a vampire lord; the vampire mage could indeed hit the vampire lord. It is overriden if the monster is specified to have a different "hits as" flag, so the in the case of a monster that appears on both lists but in different places, this first list takes precedence. I'm thinking what we should do is add those monsters, but all linking to a single note pointing to that reference (so people won't think that this list is inconsistent with the monster properties listed on the individual monster pages).
Unfortunately, I don't think there's any good way to merge the lists; there definitely are monsters with a specified "hits as" that's different from their enchantment resistance flags (mist and shadow wolves, for starters). -Ion frigate (talk) 07:38, 2 June 2012 (UTC)