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Why prefer level 7?

The article says: "provided you are –– level 5 at least, and level 7 for preference"

What difference does it make whether you are level 5, 6, 7, 14 or 28? --ZeroOne 22:37, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

No difference at all to your chances of getting Excalibur, but the original article author might have been thinking about your chances of surviving a potential summoned water demon. I removed the reference anyway. --Jayt 22:33, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
And, sometimes, even Level 8 isn't enough. I once got a water demon, then he summoned another water demon, and I misspelled Elbereth. Oh, well: stuff happens. Not much in NetHack is really safe. Nowadays, I make sure to always dip on the highest dungeon level with a fountain (so there's a better chance a water demon won't be hostile), and never dip without a reliable escape item.--Ckbryant 14:39, 25 January 2008 (UTC)


I can't remeber where I read it, but someone said get Excalibur, and stand near the altar fo your choice and wait for the sacrafices to come to you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 31 October 2006

I cannot see how standing near an altar and waiting for monsters to appear would be a different experience when wielding the Excalibur versus wielding something else. Although it does say "Even eyeless monsters will be able to locate you" in the NetHack artifacts spoiler, but it is not the same as aggravate monster. --ZeroOne 23:26, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Monster paparazzi

Since wielding Excalibur makes monsters attracted to you, isn't that effectively canceling out stealth? --Xercess 20:02, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

I've played a lot of dwarven valkyries, so I know that it won't wake sleeping monsters. --anonymous


The article should mention that rust effects are removed when a longsword becomes excalibur, and that it is rustproof

Effects only if wielded?

The article doesn't make clear whether "monsters can find you effect" is only if the weapon is wielded or not (or is that the "(special)" entry under "when wielded?" I'm a newbie and don't know what the answer is, so someone else will have to update the entry. 17:51, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm still confused about all this "monsters can find you" stuff. Is it like when you're invisible or displaced monsters will hit you instead of missing, or like monsters all over the dungeon level walk towards you? DemonDoll 18:32, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
According to the source for Excalibur in Artilist.h, all innate effects of the sword only apply when it is weilded and it has no inventory effects. In the article's current form, it removes ambiguity from the "monsters can find you" question - a sightless monster is able to intentionally path towards you - but the artifact itself contains no flags that would let a sightless monster find the player. There must be a special case somewhere else. --FJH 06:13, May 13, 2010 (UTC)


[In Slash'EM, current stable release, no patches]

Not sure if it is an Excalibur thing, a knight thing, a crowning thing or entirely a Slash'EM thing. I dipped for Excalibur as soon as I reached level 5, while a +1 sword. I am now a level 12 knight (and unfortunately became The Hand of Elbereth around level 10, while obtaining holy water). Having yet to find any scrolls of enchant weapon, it confuses how my Excalibur became +3?

Does crowning in Slash'EM enchant Excalibur if it is already in your possession? Something happened somewhere; it seems as if this should be included in a description somewhere (of course, perhaps it is exists and I failed to find it).

--User (talk) 18:42, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Of all places, I found information on the Crowning page. Perhaps it should be place here, too? --User (talk) 15:12, 26 August 2017 (UTC)