During inventory, statues are often described as 'empty.' What might a non-empty statue contain? And how might one access the contents? (unsigned comment by 16:18, 16 March 2006 N8chz)
- I do not remember all the details, but...
- If you hit a monster with a cockatrice corpse, it becomes a statue. The monster inventory becomes the statue contents. So the statue of a grid bug that I sometimes carry around is empty, because grid bugs normally carry nothing. To get the contents, the only method I know is to learn the stone to flesh spell, cast it on a statue, then kill the resulting monster and take the dropped items. --Kernigh 20:26, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
- You can also smash the statue to rubble and take its contents from the pile. Polymorphing the statue isn't recommended, as if you polymorph any container into a non-container (in this case, likely a boulder), the contents are lost. GreyKnight 15:45, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
I like Oracle statues
My wizard found a spellbook of finger of death in one :P Fredil Yupigo 21:42, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
- Wow, this will make my adventures to Sokoban much more fun! LOL!- - DemonSlayerThe3 :: The Neutral Gnomish Wizard, with my kitten Ellinis! 00:10, September 17, 2010 (UTC)
Oracle statue weight
Why do not the oracle statues weigh the same every game? Sometimes, I can lift some, but not all foo centaur statues (individually).
Their weight should be 3/2*corpse weight + inventory weight. This also occurrs when all involved statues are empty and depict the same monster type. -Tjr 13:09, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
Weight measurements in one wizard mode game:
|Monster type||Measured weight||Predicted weight|
-Tjr 13:40, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
- The same code is responsible for C343-36: Weight of corpses on special levels may not be calculated correctly, which will be fixed in next version. --paxed 11:51, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
I never was happy with the table on steelypips, since it averaged out the probability over several levels and then tabulated the chances of finding certain numbers of spellbooks. I wrote up a quick Python script to randomly generate millions of levels' worth of Oracle statues and add up the numbers of spellbooks. Weird thing is that even with millions of runs, I still seem to only get one decimal place of accuracy. (e.g. Level 6 matches level 7 up to the first decimal only.) Probably need to go back and read some math texts again to see why that happens. If anyone needs it, I can upload the script, if given basic instructions about how/where to do that. --AileTheAlien 20:12, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
- BTW, if somebody is currently taking an undergraduate class with probabilities, calculating the exact chances would be a great way to study for exams. Plus it would be infinitly accurate, and not just a close approximation. --AileTheAlien 20:20, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
- The probabilities are wrong because they do not account for monster size. mkobj.c, line 607 checks if the statue is not "very small", and only on that condition makes a book with (level/2 /(level/2 + 10)) chance. --Tjr 23:57, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
- Should have been more explicit; The probabilities were not matching because between simulating the even/odd levels, I was getting different dice rolls on my pseudorandom number generator. Hence they did not match exactly. Anyways, I wrote the program which calculates the exact probabilities, all even/odd levels match, and it's accurate to more decimals than are used in the chart. Done. --AileTheAlien 03:31, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
whacking a statue with an ax might be a Bad Idea
i added the messages for applying an ax to a statue rather than a pick-axe because, scanning the source, it looks like it can kill you. a mister Umbire the Phantom has since come and deleted my comment that this is "probably a bad idea."
i don't want to say for sure "this can kill you" because i'm not perfectly versed in the source code, but the line to which i referred in my annotation, in dig.c, says:
if (vibrate) losehp(2, "axing a hard object", KILLED_BY);
so it seems kinda dangerous. anyone have a better idea of how to express this to newbies without offending mister umbrie, who asked me to "Avoid additional comments like that" when he deleted it?D4 wryyyy (talk) 09:27, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
- I removed that not because of any perceived """offensiveness""", but because it doesn't seem to make much sense to presume new players would try it to begin with. --Umbire the Phantom (talk) 15:24, 23 December 2021 (UTC)