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| − | [[SLASH'EM]] | + | In [[SLASH'EM]] and [[SlashTHEM]], [[monster]]s can have the '''"Need +x weapon to hit"''' [[property]], where x is an integer from 1 to 4 - monsters with the property cannot be damaged with weapons with less than the required enchantment. This is also informally known as '''"enchantment resistance"''', and is derived from ''[[Dungeons & Dragons]]'' alongside the "[[Hits creatures as +x weapon]]" property. |
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| − | + | When in combat, the game checks the enchantment of the attacker's wielded weapon against the target's "Need +x weapon to hit" flags if they possess any{{refsrc|uhitm.c|769|version=SLASH'EM 0.0.7E7F2}} - [[artifact]]s that [[you]] attack with gain a +2 bonus to this check {{refsrc|uhitm.c|886|version=SLASH'EM 0.0.7E7F2}}(e.g. a +0 [[Fire Brand]] will hit as +2 for this purpose), while [[Magicbane]] is always counted as a +4 weapon, effectively ignoring all forms of enchantment resistance when you attack with it.{{refsrc|uhitm.c|885|version=SLASH'EM 0.0.7E7F2}} For ranged weapons fired from [[launcher]]s, only the enchantment of the fired [[projectile]] matters. Monsters with the ''hits creatures as a +x weapon'' property have that property checked for enchantment purposes, including you if you are [[polyself]]ed into such a monster and attacking bare-handed; monsters attacking with artifact weapons do not gain bonuses. | |
| − | + | If the effective enchantment of the weapon is equal to or greater than the "enchantment resistance" of the target, the weapon will do normal damage - otherwise, it deals no damage and will print the appropriate message. Your weapons that fail to damage a monster with a "Need +x weapon to hit" property still count towards training that weapon's [[skill]]. There are some exceptions to this rule: | |
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| − | + | * A [[silver]] weapon will do normal damage ''and'' silver damage against a silver-hating monster. | |
| − | + | * [[Poison]]ed weapons are always able to hit. | |
| + | * [[Lightsaber]]s ignore enchantment resistance, regardless of whether or not they are lit. | ||
| − | + | Magic attacks from [[spell]]s, [[scroll]]s and [[wand]]s will function as normal. | |
| − | === | + | ===Bare-handed combat=== |
| − | + | Bare-handed attacks count as a +0 weapon irrespective of your skill level or any worn [[gloves]], with two exceptions: | |
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| − | + | * You are [[polymorph]]ed into a monster with the ''hits creatures as a +x weapon'' property as mentioned above, and can hit if ''x'' is high enough. | |
| + | * You are a [[Monk]]: Monks fighting bare-handed hit creatures as a +[[XL]]/4 weapon, i.e. a level 4-7 Monk hits as +1, level 8-11 Monks hit as +2, level 12-15 Monks hit as +3, and level 16+ Monks hit as +4. | ||
| − | === | + | ===Kicking=== |
| + | If you are kicking a monster, the relevant enchantment is the enchantment of your boots. [[Kicking boots]] and artifact boots such as [[Whisperfeet]] do not gain bonuses for this check when worn. | ||
| − | [[ | + | ===Artifacts=== |
| + | The above bonuses to artifacts are not only applied to artifact weapons, but to any non-weapon artifact you wield that can be enchanted or charged - see [[#Other items|the section on other items]] below for details. An artifact that fails a check versus enchantment resistance will not cause damage from any special attacks it might have, though it will still print the corresponding messages, leading to somewhat confusing situations such as the following example with [[Serpent's Tongue]]: | ||
| − | + | {{message|The twisted blade poisons the [[ki-rin]]! The poison was deadly...<br>Your attack doesn't seem to harm the ki-rin.}} | |
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| − | + | The ki-rin in the above situation was indeed unharmed. It is also worth nothing that Serpent's Tongue is not poisoned in the same way as a weapon coated with a [[potion of sickness]], but instead has a chance of dealing poison damage to non-resistant monsters (including instakilling them). | |
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| − | === | + | ===Other items=== |
| − | + | If you are wielding an item that can be enchanted or charged, whether it is [[armor]], a [[tool]], or even a [[wand]], the game still checks the enchantment/charge of that item. This is because both values are stored by the same variable for objects ("spe"), which is checked for enchantment resistance. Therefore, bashing a [[statue gargoyle]] with a wand of wishing (0:0) will do nothing, but bashing it with a wand of wishing (0:1) will hurt it. This applies to artifacts that can be charged as well, and they will also gain the +2 bonus given to artifact weapons. | |
==Strategy== | ==Strategy== | ||
| − | + | Enchantment resistance makes it urgent that you maintain the enchantment of your weapons as you progress - being stonewalled by a monster with a high enchantment resistance can prove deadly. If your main weapon is insufficiently enchanted, check for wands and other sources of magic that you can use against monsters, and be sure to take note of the cases above. Charged wands or tools are actually useful last-resort options for monsters with weaker enchantment resistance; remember that artifacts get a +2 bonus to checks against enchantment. If neither you nor your pet can damage a monster and you have none of the listed options, your best bet is to retreat and/or engrave [[Elbereth]]. | |
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| + | The effective enchantment of a Monk's martial arts attacks rises quickly enough to keep up with the enchantmnet resistance of monsters, enough that they can avoid much of the aforementioned binds. Even so, they should avoid doing the [[Chaotic Quest]] before XL 16, since they will not be able to damage [[Vecna]]; descending too deep may also cause hard-to-hit [[Archon]]s to generate near the [[Castle]]. | ||
| − | + | Enchantment resistance also poses a problem for pets, since most of the readily-obtainable ones lack the ability to hit monsters with enchantment resistance. Some options and advice for managing pets that can hit through enchantment resistance and are somewhat easy to obtain are listed below: | |
| − | + | * Baby dragons obtained from random [[egg]]s early on can hit as +1 weapons. | |
| + | * Intelligent, weapon-wielding [[humanoid]] monsters can hit reliably with a sufficiently-enchanted weapon. Even [[Dwarf (monster)|dwarves]] or [[Gnome (monster)|gnomes]] can do the job if you manage to tame one, which can be done with [[magic trap]]s - these are usually not too hard to come by in the [[Gnomish Mines]], though getting the proper effect in a timely manner is another task entirely. | ||
| + | * Save any [[banana]]s you find for the various {{monclass|Y}}s that you can encounter: you can use one to tame a [[yeti]], [[sasquatch]] or [[zruty]], which all hit as a +1 weapon and deal decent base damage. | ||
| + | * Lucky [[pet shop]]s may provide you with a viable [[figurine]] that you can bless for an applicable pet, especially since they will come with their [[monster starting inventory]] - beware that you have a {{frac|4|5}} chance at most of a blessed figurine generating a tame monster. | ||
| + | * Using a [[bullwhip]] to disarm your pet and enchant its weapon becomes almost crucial in the late game, as there are very few tameable monsters that can naturally hit an Archon or a Solar without a weapon (save e.g., another Solar or a Planetar, which are common targets for a figurine [[wish]]). | ||
==See also== | ==See also== | ||
| − | *[[Monsters with need +x weapon to hit]] | + | * [[Monsters with need +x weapon to hit]] |
| − | *[[Monsters with hits creatures as a +x weapon]] | + | * [[Monsters with hits creatures as a +x weapon]] |
==References== | ==References== | ||
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| − | [[Category:SLASH'EM]] | + | {{slashem-7E7|offset=1}} |
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| + | [[Category:SLASH'EM monsters]] | ||
| + | [[Category:SlashTHEM monsters]] | ||
Revision as of 16:10, 29 July 2023
In SLASH'EM and SlashTHEM, monsters can have the "Need +x weapon to hit" property, where x is an integer from 1 to 4 - monsters with the property cannot be damaged with weapons with less than the required enchantment. This is also informally known as "enchantment resistance", and is derived from Dungeons & Dragons alongside the "Hits creatures as +x weapon" property.
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Description
When in combat, the game checks the enchantment of the attacker's wielded weapon against the target's "Need +x weapon to hit" flags if they possess any[1] - artifacts that you attack with gain a +2 bonus to this check [2](e.g. a +0 Fire Brand will hit as +2 for this purpose), while Magicbane is always counted as a +4 weapon, effectively ignoring all forms of enchantment resistance when you attack with it.[3] For ranged weapons fired from launchers, only the enchantment of the fired projectile matters. Monsters with the hits creatures as a +x weapon property have that property checked for enchantment purposes, including you if you are polyselfed into such a monster and attacking bare-handed; monsters attacking with artifact weapons do not gain bonuses.
If the effective enchantment of the weapon is equal to or greater than the "enchantment resistance" of the target, the weapon will do normal damage - otherwise, it deals no damage and will print the appropriate message. Your weapons that fail to damage a monster with a "Need +x weapon to hit" property still count towards training that weapon's skill. There are some exceptions to this rule:
- A silver weapon will do normal damage and silver damage against a silver-hating monster.
- Poisoned weapons are always able to hit.
- Lightsabers ignore enchantment resistance, regardless of whether or not they are lit.
Magic attacks from spells, scrolls and wands will function as normal.
Bare-handed combat
Bare-handed attacks count as a +0 weapon irrespective of your skill level or any worn gloves, with two exceptions:
- You are polymorphed into a monster with the hits creatures as a +x weapon property as mentioned above, and can hit if x is high enough.
- You are a Monk: Monks fighting bare-handed hit creatures as a +XL/4 weapon, i.e. a level 4-7 Monk hits as +1, level 8-11 Monks hit as +2, level 12-15 Monks hit as +3, and level 16+ Monks hit as +4.
Kicking
If you are kicking a monster, the relevant enchantment is the enchantment of your boots. Kicking boots and artifact boots such as Whisperfeet do not gain bonuses for this check when worn.
Artifacts
The above bonuses to artifacts are not only applied to artifact weapons, but to any non-weapon artifact you wield that can be enchanted or charged - see the section on other items below for details. An artifact that fails a check versus enchantment resistance will not cause damage from any special attacks it might have, though it will still print the corresponding messages, leading to somewhat confusing situations such as the following example with Serpent's Tongue:
- The twisted blade poisons the ki-rin! The poison was deadly...
Your attack doesn't seem to harm the ki-rin.
The ki-rin in the above situation was indeed unharmed. It is also worth nothing that Serpent's Tongue is not poisoned in the same way as a weapon coated with a potion of sickness, but instead has a chance of dealing poison damage to non-resistant monsters (including instakilling them).
Other items
If you are wielding an item that can be enchanted or charged, whether it is armor, a tool, or even a wand, the game still checks the enchantment/charge of that item. This is because both values are stored by the same variable for objects ("spe"), which is checked for enchantment resistance. Therefore, bashing a statue gargoyle with a wand of wishing (0:0) will do nothing, but bashing it with a wand of wishing (0:1) will hurt it. This applies to artifacts that can be charged as well, and they will also gain the +2 bonus given to artifact weapons.
Strategy
Enchantment resistance makes it urgent that you maintain the enchantment of your weapons as you progress - being stonewalled by a monster with a high enchantment resistance can prove deadly. If your main weapon is insufficiently enchanted, check for wands and other sources of magic that you can use against monsters, and be sure to take note of the cases above. Charged wands or tools are actually useful last-resort options for monsters with weaker enchantment resistance; remember that artifacts get a +2 bonus to checks against enchantment. If neither you nor your pet can damage a monster and you have none of the listed options, your best bet is to retreat and/or engrave Elbereth.
The effective enchantment of a Monk's martial arts attacks rises quickly enough to keep up with the enchantmnet resistance of monsters, enough that they can avoid much of the aforementioned binds. Even so, they should avoid doing the Chaotic Quest before XL 16, since they will not be able to damage Vecna; descending too deep may also cause hard-to-hit Archons to generate near the Castle.
Enchantment resistance also poses a problem for pets, since most of the readily-obtainable ones lack the ability to hit monsters with enchantment resistance. Some options and advice for managing pets that can hit through enchantment resistance and are somewhat easy to obtain are listed below:
- Baby dragons obtained from random eggs early on can hit as +1 weapons.
- Intelligent, weapon-wielding humanoid monsters can hit reliably with a sufficiently-enchanted weapon. Even dwarves or gnomes can do the job if you manage to tame one, which can be done with magic traps - these are usually not too hard to come by in the Gnomish Mines, though getting the proper effect in a timely manner is another task entirely.
- Save any bananas you find for the various Y apelike creatures that you can encounter: you can use one to tame a yeti, sasquatch or zruty, which all hit as a +1 weapon and deal decent base damage.
- Lucky pet shops may provide you with a viable figurine that you can bless for an applicable pet, especially since they will come with their monster starting inventory - beware that you have a 4⁄5 chance at most of a blessed figurine generating a tame monster.
- Using a bullwhip to disarm your pet and enchant its weapon becomes almost crucial in the late game, as there are very few tameable monsters that can naturally hit an Archon or a Solar without a weapon (save e.g., another Solar or a Planetar, which are common targets for a figurine wish).
