Sweeps

articles with old version tags

https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Category:Nethack-343_articles

As of July 7, 2024: 369 articles.

https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Category:Nethack-360_articles

As of June 20, 2024: 104 articles.

Review each article. Most of these articles have a lot of deferred maintenance. Bring them up to date, then bump the version template to {{nethack-367}}.

articles with unversioned function templates

https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Category:Pages_with_unversioned_Function_templates

Most of these will get updated by the nethack-360 etc updates. As of June 14 2024, 89 of these.

articles with unversioned refsrc templates

https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Category:Pages_with_unversioned_Refsrc_templates

When refsrc quietly moved from 3.4.3 to 3.6.1, a lot of these quietly broke.

As of June 17 2024, 256 of these.

redlinks to pages

 https://nethackwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:WantedPages&limit=5000&offset=0
 https://nethackwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:WantedPages&limit=5000&offset=5000

As of June 17, 2024: 5682 hits.
As of July 1, 2024: 5531 hits.

Finished one pass.

Finished:

Use LinklessExists in object template. Committed 2024-07-01.

More things to do:

Create redirects for messages based on User:Zuzak/Messages.
Use LinklessExists in language template to kill about 1400 missing translation pages.
Make some lists by variant and ask for help.

Delete redirects of the form [[Foo.h]] and [[Foo.c]]

Part of https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/User:Furey/References_to_source_code .

Many of these started as redirects to 3.4.3 source code and then quietly switched to 3.6.1 source code. This leaves the callers expecting 3.4.3 referring to the wrong version.

Look at https://nethackwiki.com/index.php?title=Source:NetHack_3.4.3/src/allmain.c&oldid=84998 and every other 3.4.3 source file. They contain "link to me" instructions that actually link to 3.6.1!

In progress

Sweeping 3.4.3 source files to fix the broken "link here" instructions.
- *.h finished.
- *.des finished.

Todo

Sweep WLH for the bare-filename articles and fix fixable stuff.
- References from Source:NetHack_3.4.3 to bare-filename articles are wrong because 3.6.1.
https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/User:PsyMar/Source_Structs
- left a friendly note on the discussion page, but last activity of this user was in 2012, so not expecting a response
- just let the redlinks happen?
- me or an admin send notice, wait 30 days, then put ... on the page, maybe a cat with a box?
actually delete all the redirects

Message redirects from Zuzak

https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/User:Zuzak/Messages lists about 1,029 messages. Many of them are redlinked, so this project will fix a lot of redlinks, too.

As of June 2024, policy changed. Old policy was to redirect all in-game messages to an appropriate article. New policy is do what editors think is worthwhile, but there is no policy goal of "all".

It would be good to sweep Zuzak/Messages for easy, non-obvious messages, and then delete it or wrap it in nowiki. This will be hard, as Zuzak last contribution date is October 20, 2024, and we have a custom of not editing user pages. (Although NetHackWiki:Policy allows it.)

migrating source files to Source: namespace

Main article: User:Furey/How_many_copies_of_dogmove.c?

There was a big push in 2008. All source files are in the Source: namespace. However, there are several hundred leftover redirects. Eliminate most of them.

This actually shows up to readers. Do a search for a filename such as dogmove.c . There are 14 source files with that name (okay) and 15 redirection files, mostly pointing from outside the Source: namespace to inside. These are not okay, because the redirects clutter and confuse the search results, and the search feature returns only 20 matches. So these leftover redirects crowd out actual file results.

articles with missing directory in refsrc

https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Category:Pages_with_missing_directory_in_Refsrc

Produces 404 on GitHub.

As of June 17, 2024: 73 hits. As of June 30, 2024: 70 hits.

redlinks from spammer welcome pages (low priority)

https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/User_talk:118.40.201.62

 Hi, welcome to NetHackWiki! Thanks for your edit to the Hi all, I want to say something about me and how I found this site. page.

Now the wantedpages report has a line for Hi all, I want to say something about me and how I found this site..

I estimate there are 10 to 20 of these, out of 6000 total wantedpages. But it's healthy for me to flush garbage when I see it, instead of working around it. So I need to write a policy proposal, then get consensus, then blank these talk pages and mark them {{delete}}. As soon as the page blank hits they will be off the wantedpages report. Then an admin can review the deletion requests through the regular process.

source links that are meant to be 3.4.3, but resolve to 3.6.1

Example:

Source:NetHack 3.4.3/src/save.c says:

 Below is the full text to src/save.c from NetHack 3.4.3. To link to a particular line, write [[save.c#line123]], for example.

And then Save.c resolves to 3.6.1.

Pages like https://nethackwiki.com/index.php?title=Save.c&redirect=no are broken by design. They start as 3.4.3, and then someone edits the page to point to 3.6.1, and then every page that relies on it is quietly pointing to a bogus line in an unwanted version.

I need to figure out all these versionless source file pages and then chase their "what links here" and then turn them into refsrc's where the caller specifies a version and the version doesn't shift as helper pages and templates shift and then put {{delete}} tags on the broken pages.

tnnt articles that need tiles

github tnnt has tiles.

https://github.com/tnnt-devteam/tnnt/blob/master/win/share/monsters.txt

devteam member

https://github.com/tnnt-devteam/tnnt/blob/master/win/share/objects.txt

As far as I can tell, there is no custom tile for Really Cool Shirt.

Templates

template:Languages/Lang

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:ParserFunctions#ifexist_and_wanted_pages

(There's a lot of user complaints about this behavior.)

languages/lang uses #ifexist. That is why our unwanted pages report has about 1400 /de, /fi, /ko, /ru, etc.

Update: Ion Frigate made LinklessExists, let's rock and roll!

Test lab:

 Look in wanted pages and search for "Furey says".
 Furey says hello giant ant, nice of you to exist

 Furey says goodbye agony aunt, sorry you do not exist

template:Monster

Refline parameter assumes NetHack 3.6.1. Reference parameter maybe could take a versioned srcref. Dunno what variants are doing today.

template:variant-36X and template:variant-37X

We have template:variant-343. Look into creating variant-36X, variant-37X.

Articles

@Play (low priority)

[@Play] has 89 http: links, of which 79 are gamesetwatch.com and need archive captures. Or maybe we don't need to be indexing someone's compilation page, just point to an external collection.

anger and smite

Make smite a separate article. Any god, including Moloch (I think), can smite you. However only the current co-aligned god has an anger state. That is, there is only one u.ugangr, and it applies only to your god. Other gods may get upset for a moment, Other gods may smite, but other gods do not have an anger state. Talking about them getting angry is confusing.

artifact

Perhaps merge intelligent artifact into artifact?

Big duplicate table for artifact weapon damage.

I agree with the suggestion to merge the pages, and have placed a merge notice on the intelligent artifact page --Aximili (talk) 00:14, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

beartrap

The trap article refers to here, so beartrap should be about both beartrap objects and bear trap trap type.

Article messages need to acknowledge "the trap" / "your trap" distinction. So does main body. I believe every trap that hero sets is a "your trap" but I've never checked.

comestible

Article should describe throwing comestibles to monsters. It's a critical early-game strategy.

Article should describe splatter foods (eggs, cream pies, melons). Then other articles should refer to the section on splatter foods. Right now, at least 6 articles have the list of splatter foods: little dog, dog, large dog, kitten, house cat, large cat.

covetous

Per discussion on Talk:Master Kaen, covetous could use a note about how fast covetous monsters can warp and attack, backed by some source diving and wizard mode testing.

damage

Take the source dive from double damage, walk it again, fill out more parts that I skipped and hurried over.

Discussion opened on talk:damage.

After 3.7.0 someone has to re-do the source dive anyways.

damage type

astral vision blocks blindness

History changes incorporated.

drain energy (monster attack)

Need new article. Copy from drain life (monster attack).

foocubus

Someone marked the article 3.6.7 but it still talks about SEDUCE as a compile-time option. In the same paragraph with a 3.6.7 refsrc that refers to SEDUCE as a sysconf action.

guidebook

A previous editor just version-bumped from 3.4.3 to 3.6.0 without reviewing. Left a bit about compile-time Elbereth hanging. More important, the set of options changes with every release. Gotta walk the article and compare it vs the 3.6.7 guidebook.

half physical damage

64 new footnotes. Hella maintenance for debatable strategic value.

2024-07-06: opened discussion on talk page.

Healing potions

Mostly repeats older articles. Move unique info into potion articles, then blank for deletion.

Original author has restored article and contested the request for deletion. Back to umbire (who posted the original deletion request). We are likely to need a neutral admin to arbitrate.

Done 2024-07-09. Umbire deleted the article.

interwiki link for wikipedia

We should change it from http to https. Others can change too. Test some more because it takes an admin to make or revert this change. Also might help to do more of Phase 1 on interwiki links so we can see what is left over.

List of qt_xpms.h images

Version-blurred. Both 3.4.3 and 3.6.1 link to the same page, although 3.6.1 has different images than 3.4.3. Likely fix: List of qt_xpms.h images (3.4.3) and List of qt_xmps.h images (3.6.1).

mercenary and Yendorian army

These articles have a lot of parallel duplication. I marked them both with {{merge}}.

nethack.alt.org (low priority)

"Players with saved games of NetHack 3.6.2, NetHack 3.6.3, NetHack 3.6.4, NetHack 3.6.5, or NetHack 3.6.6 may finish out their games, but no player may start a new game with these versions."

As of June 17, 2024:

!lg * name role version version<3.6.6 max=deathdate

 furey: name,role,version,deathdate: 1) merlektest,Rog,3.6.4,20240521;  2) greydog,Sam,3.6.2,20240519;  3) nortimer,Wiz,3.6.2,20240429;  4) gandalftotalbro,Cav,3.6.4,20240422;  5) ckorsgaard,Val,3.6.2,20240421;  6) Nikita2001,Val,3.6.2,20240403;  7) ASC1I,Rog,3.6.2,20240402;  8) timosarkar,Val,3.6.2,20240327;  9) flandre,Sam,3.6.2,20240324;  10) Eben,Val,3.6.2,20240322

NetHackWiki:Community Portal

Audit this page and its archives for shitty ad site takeovers. Check its archive pages too. Okay if outlinks break, as long as they are not evil.

persistent level

Rogue did have a save feature, which did embed the current dungeon level in the save file. Actually, Rogue implemented the save feature by crudely dumping everything in memory from version to sbrk(0), with no regard to which part of memory contains the current dungeon level. (Carefully read the save.c file of Rogue 3.6 for details.)

Sounds plausible, but I cannot get the source to verify.

https://www.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=2.11BSD/src/games/rogue/save.c claims to be 2.11 BSD and shows an sccsid from 1987. This file uses a conventional write-variables, read-variables appproach.

Public server

Needs ongoing monitoring. Has had several updates in the past three years.

rec.games.roguelike.nethack FAQ

There were a lot of edits, including text edits, since the last upload. The text edits are likely violations of the license that requires the file to be kept intact. The markup edits were an ongoing source of bad and obsolete markups.

2024-07-01: I made the file a verbatim spoiler, re-uploaded the contents, cited the URL of the upload (there was no citation before), and asked for the page to be protected, a la armr-343.txt and weap-343.txt. Still waiting on the protection.

Rumor messages and Source:True rumors

Make a new file "True rumors (3.6.7)." Import from both existing files. Fact check each line. Pin to 3.6.7. Someone can fork the file for 3.7.0 so we never have bastard untrustworthy mixed version again.

symset

This article has the same big-ass list as Custom map symbols. Here it is in a three-column table, with ascii defaults and descriptions. Also, the Guidebook has the same big-ass list, in three-column form, as well!

Custom map symbols is sorted in source code order. symset is sorted in grouped order. The Guidebook is sorted in alphabetical order.

Right now my idea is to table-ize Custom map symbols, add in table headings from somewhere. Then have symset point to it. That way symset will document code behavior, and Custom map symbols will just have a big table.

Talk:Main Page/Archive1

Found this during the meatball crisis. [[wikicities:xxx]] link, does not work. Several wikia links. Did not notice any domains taken over by ads (beyond the usual wikia stuff that is).

This will be a good page for finding bad interwiki links. The article doesn't have to work, it just has to not link to bad ads.

theft (attack)

Needs bunch of work. First, there are three damage types: AD_SITM, AD_SEDU (which is a bad name), and AD_SAMU. So we need two or three pages. Second, these are damage types, not attack types, although that's probably livable. Third, AD_SAMU needs its own page, not mixed in with AD_SITM. And AD_SAMU needs a history note that 3.4.3 behavior is "steal your quest artifact" and 3.6.7 behavior is "steal any quest artifact". It's a big difference between 3.4.3 and 3.6.7 and comes up a lot on IRC.

Ideas for more work

Historical

Idea: we should make a historical namespace or historical category or something. Slap one tag on an article and get a box that says "this article is primarily of historical interest. It is not updated for new versions of NetHack. External links may not work properly." Set the cutoff at information prior to NetHack 3.4.0. Allow maintenance so editors can update things as necessary, especially external links.

Monster generation during healing pause

https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/1dore9m/dumb_question_i_cant_find_on_the_wiki/

Sometimes "n100s" stops when a monster appears, and sometimes it does not. I believe I have seen this myself. Needs more investigation.

Scroll of taming vs magic mr

https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/1dy839y/accidentally_angered_my_quest_leader_and_got/

Needs more explicit wording about the pacifying attack going against monster MR.

Done 2024-07-09

User:Furey/My TODOs

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