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This wiki was inactive recently. I have recently joined and will probably work in the project namespace before I start working in the main namespace. You can look at Wikibooks:NetHack, where I havee previously contributed. --Kernigh 00:21, 10 Dec 2005 (UTC)

50 articles --Kernigh 06:22, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

How to write a great article

There are many many aspects to cover in Wikihack. At the ground level we have the items and monsters in the game. Each article about these should have the following sections: Facts, Commentary, and Strategy. Firstly, we list the facts about the relevant item. Then in Commentary, we draw attention to the implications of these facts. Finally in Strategy, we give useful advice on how to use with or deal with this thing! 80.4.224.5 17:47, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

New sysops

In order to help maintain the wiki, since it seems the founder is inactive, I've made Kernigh and ZeroOne sysops, and Kernigh a bureaucrat. Happy editing, Mindspillage (spill yours?) 20:54, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Nethack-l Mailing List

Each Wikia has a mailing list: ours is nethack-l-at-wikia.com. I made the first post, so it works. For more information, read Wikia:Mailing lists. "Posts from non-subscribers may be delayed or accidentally discarded, as they need to be approved by a list administrator to prevent spam."

So if someone emails the list (instead of posting to this Community Portal), I am suscribed so I will eventually read it. --Kernigh 01:48, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

I, Kernigh, noticed in Special:Recentchanges that ZeroOne recently updated the "wiki@" logo proposal. There was supposed to be a Wikihack:Logo contest, but we never found enough users to vote. There are only two proposals, both shown above.

My logo idea (actually a screenshot when I made the font big) does not work because I could not use mimics. So I propose putting ZeroOne's Image:Wikihack logo.png as the logo. (A sysop would upload the logo to Image:Wiki.png, a protected page.) Comments? --Kernigh 04:09, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

It looks like no one objects so I just took my logo in use. It is also a screenshot taken in wizard mode, I just added that border with Photoshop. You can guess it took some time to get those monsters arrange themselves to form the word "wiki"! --ZeroOne 11:03, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Images from the Windows version?

Anyone know if there's any copyright on images from the Windows tile version? If not, it might be a good idea to upload them to the articles. Lotte 20:31, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

The tile files are from the vanilla 3.4.3 sources. Because they are part of vanilla NetHack, they should be copyrighted but licensed under the NetHack General Public License dat/license, which should make them okay to upload here.
These are the tiles after conversion to PNG.
The tiles live in win/share, but during the build, X11 and Qt builds convert the tiles to .xpm format and put them dat/x11tiles. (Windows builds apparently use .bmp files.) So I told the image view KView to convert the file from .xpm to .png format, and uploaded that here.
The problem now is that to use the tiles in articles, we would need to put them into separate files. --Kernigh 03:46, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm working on it, I have a few up already. Lotte 16:57, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

ASCII templates

Good work :) I think we should also have a colour ASCII representation of the item/monster on each page, with a black background, preferably in a large font like on the wikihack logo. It would be nice to do this in HTML; what's the best way? --Jayt 19:28, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
In my opinion the best way would be to create a template with two parameters: the character and the color. Then we'd just have to decide where to put it. As a large image to the right or somewhere in the text like so far? --ZeroOne 22:33, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
I made some function templates, though the mechanism for making the font big is a bit clunky. Example elf-lord, leocrotta, Arch-Lich and door: @qL+. --Jayt 15:55, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
Maybe a second parameter, small or large could be added? {{brightblue|large|a}} would then render like a and {{brightblue|small|a}} would render like a. This shouldn't be too difficult to do. --ZeroOne 19:40, 7 June 2006 (UTC)


I like the idea of showing the ASCII chars that represent game objects. Unfortunately it turns out that the same object is represented by different chars on different systems, see Talk:Fountain. In addition not all characters can be represented in html, and the colors won't render on a browser that overrides display defaults.
I suggest we decide on a standard set of characters for the game objects and then display them using embedded images Like so... Ch-01-01.png
-- PraetorFenix 23:53, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

A model article

I've made an extensive article about the potion of object detection. Any suggestions or improvements? I think we should make a model article for each "type" of object or monster, and I think this one is pretty much what we want it to look like. --Jayt 16:47, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

I'd like to get rid of the "spoiler-look" (xyz-343.txt) in all articles and replace those parts with running prose text. Otherwise this wiki becomes just a YASMS (Yet Another Spoiler Mirror Site, an acronym I just made up). Also listing the symbol and weight for each potion is rather needless, because they are the same for each one. After all, there is a general article about potions and another on weight. --ZeroOne 19:29, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, needs more prose. I'd actually prefer depending as little as possible on already public spoilers - after all, they all come from the same source: the source code. Lotte 21:33, 7 June 2006 (UTC)