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'''Fire Brand''' and '''Frost Brand''' are two very similar [[artifact]]s. They are both unaligned [[long sword]]s that give [[double damage]] and +''1d5'' to-hit against [[monster]]s not resistant to fire and cold respectively. Frost Brand is vastly more popular than Fire Brand, because many monsters in Gehennom are fire-resistant. However, note that most of the [[Astral Plane]]'s monsters are cold-resistant and not fire-resistant.
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'''Fire Brand''' and '''Frost Brand''' are two very similar [[artifact]]s. They are both unaligned [[long sword]]s that give [[double damage]] and +''1d5'' to-hit against [[monster]]s not resistant to fire or cold respectively. When the bonus is applied, Frost Brand gives the message "The ice-cold blade freezes the <monster>!" and Fire Brand gives "The fiery blade burns the <monster>!"
  
Both can destroy [[potion]]s carried by their target; Fire Brand can also destroy [[scroll]]s and [[spellbook]]s.
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Fire Brand confers [[fire resistance]] when wielded, and Frost Brand confers [[cold resistance]] when wielded.  
  
Fire Brand confers [[fire resistance]] when wielded and Frost Brand confers [[cold resistance]] when wielded.
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== Strategy ==
  
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Frost Brand is vastly more popular than Fire Brand, because many monsters in [[Gehennom]] are fire-resistant. However, most of the [[Astral Plane]]'s monsters are cold-resistant and not fire-resistant. Both can destroy [[potion]]s carried by their target; Fire Brand can also destroy [[scroll]]s and [[spellbook]]s. Some players dislike using them for this reason, but they are likely to kill their targets before the monster can use its item or the item is destroyed.
  
==Damage==
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Frost and Fire Brand do slightly more damage than [[Grayswandir]] against large monsters who are neither resistant nor silver-hating. For that reason, they make excellent weapons once you have the resources to enchant them, and Frost Brand is probably your best weapon choice for Gehennom if you have it (unless you also have Grayswandir).
  
The following calculates the damage done by the blessed +7 Fire Brand in the best case scenario: being expert in [[long sword]] and attacking an undead large monster without fire resistance (same calculation applies for Frost Brand against a monster without cold resistance):
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==Average damage calculation==
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The average damage calculations in the following table do not include bonuses from [[Skill|weapon skills]], [[strength]], or from using a [[blessed]] weapon against [[undead]] or [[M2_DEMON|demons]]. The same calculations apply to Frost Brand with respect to cold-resistant monsters.
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{|class="wikitable"
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!rowspan="2"|Weapon
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!colspan="2"|Fire-resistant
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!colspan="2"|Not fire-resistant
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! Small monster
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! Large monster
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! Small monster
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! Large monster
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|-
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| +0 Fire Brand|| <math>\frac{1+8}{2}=\bold{4.5}</math> || <math>\frac{1+12}{2}=\bold{6.5}</math> || <math>\left (\frac{1+8}{2} \right )\times 2=\bold{9}</math> || <math>\left (\frac{1+12}{2} \right )\times 2=\bold{13}</math>
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| +7 Fire Brand|| <math>\frac{1+8}{2}+7=\bold{11.5}</math> || <math>\frac{1+12}{2}+7=\bold{13.5}</math> || <math>\left (\frac{1+8}{2}+7\right )\times 2=\bold{23}</math> || <math>\left (\frac{1+12}{2}+7\right )\times 2=\bold{27}</math>
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|}
  
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==Variants==
+d12 base damage
 
+7 enchantment damage
 
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*2 double damage (against monsters without fire resistance)
 
+d4 blessed damage (against undead or demons)
 
+2 expert skill bonus
 
= 19 to 44 total damage (average 30)
 
  
The worst case scenario for a blessed +7 Fire Brand (with expert skill in long sword) is against a non-undead, non-demon, fire resistant small monster is:
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===xNetHack===
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In [[xNetHack]], Fire Brand and Frost Brand are [[short sword]]s instead of long swords, reducing their damage. Unlike other artifacts, they can be [[twoweapon]]ed with each other or with [[xNetHack#Artifact changes|Mirror Brand]], a new artifact short sword. Additionally, Fire Brand instantly kills [[green slime]]s and flammable [[golem]]s.
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===EvilHack===
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In [[EvilHack]], Fire and Frost brand are short swords instead of long swords, and are always made of steel. Additionally, they can be [[Forge (dungeon feature)|forged]] together to create [[Dichotomy]], an artifact [[runesword]].
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==Encyclopedia==
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{{encyclopedia|
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Some say the world will end in fire,
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Some say in ice.
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From what I've tasted of desire
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I hold with those who favor fire.
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But if it had to perish twice,
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I think I know enough of hate
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To say that for destruction ice
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Is also great
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And would suffice.
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|[ Fire and Ice, by Robert Frost ]
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}}
  
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+d8 base damage
 
+7 enchantment damage
 
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+2 expert skill bonus
 
= 10 to 17 total damage (average 13)
 
 
[[Category:Artifact weapons]]
 
[[Category:Artifact weapons]]
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{{nethack-343}}

Latest revision as of 17:09, 17 February 2024

)   Fire/Frost Brand   Long sword.png
Base item long sword
Damage vs. small 1d8 ×2
Damage vs. large 1d12 ×2
To-hit bonus +1d5
Bonus versus not fire/cold resistant
Weapon skill long sword
Size one-handed
Affiliation
When carried

(none)

When wielded
When invoked

(none)

Base price 3000 zm
Weight 40
Material iron

Fire Brand and Frost Brand are two very similar artifacts. They are both unaligned long swords that give double damage and +1d5 to-hit against monsters not resistant to fire or cold respectively. When the bonus is applied, Frost Brand gives the message "The ice-cold blade freezes the <monster>!" and Fire Brand gives "The fiery blade burns the <monster>!"

Fire Brand confers fire resistance when wielded, and Frost Brand confers cold resistance when wielded.

Strategy

Frost Brand is vastly more popular than Fire Brand, because many monsters in Gehennom are fire-resistant. However, most of the Astral Plane's monsters are cold-resistant and not fire-resistant. Both can destroy potions carried by their target; Fire Brand can also destroy scrolls and spellbooks. Some players dislike using them for this reason, but they are likely to kill their targets before the monster can use its item or the item is destroyed.

Frost and Fire Brand do slightly more damage than Grayswandir against large monsters who are neither resistant nor silver-hating. For that reason, they make excellent weapons once you have the resources to enchant them, and Frost Brand is probably your best weapon choice for Gehennom if you have it (unless you also have Grayswandir).

Average damage calculation

The average damage calculations in the following table do not include bonuses from weapon skills, strength, or from using a blessed weapon against undead or demons. The same calculations apply to Frost Brand with respect to cold-resistant monsters.

Weapon Fire-resistant Not fire-resistant
Small monster Large monster Small monster Large monster
+0 Fire Brand \frac{1+8}{2}=\bold{4.5} \frac{1+12}{2}=\bold{6.5} \left (\frac{1+8}{2} \right )\times 2=\bold{9} \left (\frac{1+12}{2} \right )\times 2=\bold{13}
+7 Fire Brand \frac{1+8}{2}+7=\bold{11.5} \frac{1+12}{2}+7=\bold{13.5} \left (\frac{1+8}{2}+7\right )\times 2=\bold{23} \left (\frac{1+12}{2}+7\right )\times 2=\bold{27}

Variants

xNetHack

In xNetHack, Fire Brand and Frost Brand are short swords instead of long swords, reducing their damage. Unlike other artifacts, they can be twoweaponed with each other or with Mirror Brand, a new artifact short sword. Additionally, Fire Brand instantly kills green slimes and flammable golems.

EvilHack

In EvilHack, Fire and Frost brand are short swords instead of long swords, and are always made of steel. Additionally, they can be forged together to create Dichotomy, an artifact runesword.

Encyclopedia

Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what I've tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice,
I think I know enough of hate
To say that for destruction ice
Is also great
And would suffice.

[ Fire and Ice, by Robert Frost ]

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