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(expanding, but also mostly removed section on acquiring - belongs more in One-eyed Sam, and also is kinda ..bad.. advice)
(it's not wishable in slash'em either - going to assume that since that's where it originated, it's not wishable in any other variant)
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==Generation==
 
==Generation==
Thiefbane cannot be randomly generated; the game will always attempt to give Thiefbane to One-eyed Sam, but in [[SLASH'EM]] it is possible to [[wish]] for it before the Black Market is generated, causing her to generate with an ordinary long sword instead.
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Thiefbane will always be generated in One-Eyed Sam's inventory. It cannot be randomly generated or wished for{{refsrc|objnam.c|3018|version=SLASH'EM 0.0.7E7F2}}, or even found in [[bones]]{{refsrc|bones.c|124|version=SLASH'EM 0.0.7E7F2}}.
  
If generated in One-eyed Sam's inventory, Thiefbane will be well-enchanted.  It is not generated [[rustproof]], as players who elect to kill Sam via controlled [[polymorph]] into a [[giant shoggoth]] will discover.
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Thiefbane will be well-enchanted, but it is not generated [[rustproof]], as players who elect to kill Sam via controlled [[polymorph]] into a [[giant shoggoth]] will discover.
  
 
==Strategy==
 
==Strategy==
 
Thiefbane is the primary reason that angering One-eyed Sam is frequently a game-ending mistake; against the player, it is easily the deadliest weapon in the game.  However, in the player's hands, it is somewhat underwhelming, as for the most part non-player {{white|@}} are not particularly dangerous or common.  One possible exception is on the [[Astral Plane]], with its hordes of [[aligned priest]]s and [[player monster]]s, but even there, most players will likely prefer a weapon such as [[Vorpal Blade]] or [[Excalibur]].
 
Thiefbane is the primary reason that angering One-eyed Sam is frequently a game-ending mistake; against the player, it is easily the deadliest weapon in the game.  However, in the player's hands, it is somewhat underwhelming, as for the most part non-player {{white|@}} are not particularly dangerous or common.  One possible exception is on the [[Astral Plane]], with its hordes of [[aligned priest]]s and [[player monster]]s, but even there, most players will likely prefer a weapon such as [[Vorpal Blade]] or [[Excalibur]].
 
Even in variants that allow it, Thiefbane is not generally worth a wish.  As mentioned, it is not a particularly outstanding weapon in player hands, and while one can indeed render One-eyed Sam less dangerous by wishing for her weapon, there are better ways of disposing of her (such as the aforementioned polymorph, or a [[boulder fort]] and well-enchanted [[firearm]]/stack of poisoned [[dart]]s) that do not require spending an early wish on a sub-optimal artifact.
 
  
 
== UnNetHack ==
 
== UnNetHack ==
In [[UnNetHack]], Thiefbane's base item class has been changed to [[two-handed sword]] and the player is in danger of being decapitated even if not in a form symbolized by {{kbd|@}}.
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In [[UnNetHack]], Thiefbane's base item class has been changed to [[two-handed sword]] and the player is in danger of being decapitated even if not in a form symbolized by {{white|@}}.
 
 
UnNethack does not allow Thiefbane to be wished for (the code calls this <code>wishing abuse</code>),{{refsrc|src/objnam.c|3036|unnethack=1406}} meaning it will always appear in One-eyed Sam's inventory.
 
 
==References==
 
==References==
 
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Revision as of 00:13, 11 December 2023

)   Thiefbane   Long sword.png
Base item long sword
Damage vs. small 1d8 +1 + level drain + cancellation + beheading
Damage vs. large 1d12 +1 + level drain + cancellation + beheading
To-hit bonus +5
Bonus versus @
Weapon skill long sword
Size one-handed
Affiliation

chaotic

When carried

(none)

When wielded

(none)

When invoked

(none)

Base price 1500 zm
Weight 40
Material iron

Thiefbane is an artifact weapon in SLASH'EM, SlashTHEM, SpliceHack, Hack'EM, and UnNetHack. Generally a chaotic long sword, it is found in the possession of One-eyed Sam in the Black Market.

Description

Against monsters represented by @, Thiefbane has a 10% chance of beheading, causes level drain similar to Stormbringer, and has +5 to hit and +1 damage. Thiefbane also has a 1 in 6 chance of canceling any @ it hits, which is probably you.[1]

Note that Thiefbane may blast you, even if you are chaotic, as you are represented by @.

Generation

Thiefbane will always be generated in One-Eyed Sam's inventory. It cannot be randomly generated or wished for[2], or even found in bones[3].

Thiefbane will be well-enchanted, but it is not generated rustproof, as players who elect to kill Sam via controlled polymorph into a giant shoggoth will discover.

Strategy

Thiefbane is the primary reason that angering One-eyed Sam is frequently a game-ending mistake; against the player, it is easily the deadliest weapon in the game. However, in the player's hands, it is somewhat underwhelming, as for the most part non-player @ are not particularly dangerous or common. One possible exception is on the Astral Plane, with its hordes of aligned priests and player monsters, but even there, most players will likely prefer a weapon such as Vorpal Blade or Excalibur.

UnNetHack

In UnNetHack, Thiefbane's base item class has been changed to two-handed sword and the player is in danger of being decapitated even if not in a form symbolized by @.

References

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