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'''#twoweapon''' is an [[extended command]] used to wield two weapons simultaneously in order to perform additional damage at the cost of overall accuracy, [[skill|skill points]], and time spent in training the ability. Twoweaponing is not available to all [[role]]s. | '''#twoweapon''' is an [[extended command]] used to wield two weapons simultaneously in order to perform additional damage at the cost of overall accuracy, [[skill|skill points]], and time spent in training the ability. Twoweaponing is not available to all [[role]]s. | ||
| − | ==Beginning two-weapon combat== | + | == Beginning two-weapon combat == |
To begin two-weapon combat, you must have your main-hand weapon wielded and your off-hand weapon in your secondary weapon slot. The easiest way to achieve this is usually to [[wield]] {{kbd|w}} your off-hand weapon, use {{kbd|x}} to swap your weapons, and then wield {{kbd|w}} your main-hand weapon. Finally, type {{kbd|#twoweapon}} to bring your intended off-hand weapon into your off-hand and start dual-wielding. | To begin two-weapon combat, you must have your main-hand weapon wielded and your off-hand weapon in your secondary weapon slot. The easiest way to achieve this is usually to [[wield]] {{kbd|w}} your off-hand weapon, use {{kbd|x}} to swap your weapons, and then wield {{kbd|w}} your main-hand weapon. Finally, type {{kbd|#twoweapon}} to bring your intended off-hand weapon into your off-hand and start dual-wielding. | ||
| − | ===Restrictions and prerequisites=== | + | === Restrictions and prerequisites === |
<div class="thumb tright">{{Two weapon combat skill table}}</div> | <div class="thumb tright">{{Two weapon combat skill table}}</div> | ||
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If you are not polymorphed, your role must be one that can reach at least ''Basic'' in the [[#Two weapon combat skill|two weapon combat skill]]. If you are polymorphed, it must be into a [[#Two-weapon combat while polymorphed|form that can fight with two weapons]]. | If you are not polymorphed, your role must be one that can reach at least ''Basic'' in the [[#Two weapon combat skill|two weapon combat skill]]. If you are polymorphed, it must be into a [[#Two-weapon combat while polymorphed|form that can fight with two weapons]]. | ||
| − | The two items you try to wield must both be weapons or weapon-tools, and they must both be one-handed. You cannot wield two weapons while wearing a [[shield]]. If your secondary weapon is cursed or you have greasy hands, it will slip to the floor when you try to dual-wield. | + | The two items you try to wield must both be weapons or weapon-tools, and they must both be one-handed. You cannot wield two weapons while wearing a [[shield]]. |
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| + | If your secondary weapon is cursed or you have greasy hands, it will slip to the floor when you try to dual-wield. If your secondary weapon becomes cursed while you are dual-wielding it, it will slip from your hand instead of being welded to it. | ||
If you wield an [[artifact weapon]] as a secondary weapon and attempt to #twoweapon, you will not be able to engage in two-weapon combat. A [[message]] will appear saying ''“Your <artifact weapon> resists being held second to another weapon!”'' [[SLASH'EM]] removes this restriction. | If you wield an [[artifact weapon]] as a secondary weapon and attempt to #twoweapon, you will not be able to engage in two-weapon combat. A [[message]] will appear saying ''“Your <artifact weapon> resists being held second to another weapon!”'' [[SLASH'EM]] removes this restriction. | ||
| − | == | + | === Two-weapon combat while polymorphed === |
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| + | You can twoweapon while [[polymorph]]ed only if your polymorphed form has two weapon attacks.<ref>{{sourcecode|mondata.h|107}}</ref> Most monsters with this property are not valid polymorphable forms. The complete list of polymorphable monsters that can twoweapon is: | ||
| + | * {{monsymlink|dwarf lord}} | ||
| + | * {{monsymlink|dwarf king}} | ||
| + | * {{monsymlink|orc-captain}} | ||
| + | * {{monsymlink|Aleax}} | ||
| + | * {{monsymlink|ettin}} | ||
| + | * {{monsymlink|elf-lord}} | ||
| + | * {{monsymlink|Elvenking}} | ||
| + | * {{monsymlink|marilith}} | ||
| + | * {{monsymlink|pit fiend}} | ||
| + | * {{monsymlink|balrog}} | ||
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| + | and in [[SLASH'EM]]: | ||
| + | * {{lightgray|h}} [[duergar]] | ||
| + | * {{darkgray|&}} [[bearded devil]] | ||
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| + | == Fighting with two weapons == | ||
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| − | Weapon damage bonuses are calculated separately for each of the two weapons. The skill that is used is the lesser of the skill in currently hitting weapon and the twoweaponing skill.<ref>{{sourcecode|weapon.c|1188}}</ref> | + | Weapon damage bonuses are calculated separately for each of the two weapons. The skill that is used is the lesser of the skill in currently hitting weapon and the twoweaponing skill.<ref>{{sourcecode|weapon.c|1188}}</ref> |
Note that twoweaponing skill bonuses for both to-hit and damage differ from single-weaponing skill bonuses (See [[Skill#Effects of skills|Skills]] for details). | Note that twoweaponing skill bonuses for both to-hit and damage differ from single-weaponing skill bonuses (See [[Skill#Effects of skills|Skills]] for details). | ||
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== Two weapon combat skill == | == Two weapon combat skill == | ||
<div class="thumb tright">{{Two weapon combat skill table}}</div> | <div class="thumb tright">{{Two weapon combat skill table}}</div> | ||
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| + | When fighting with two weapons, your effective skill level for each hand is the ''lesser'' of your two weapon combat skill and the relevant weapon skill. | ||
The two weapon combat skill is a non-weapon skill, so advancing it to Basic and Skilled costs one skill slot each, and advancing to Expert costs an additional two skill slots. | The two weapon combat skill is a non-weapon skill, so advancing it to Basic and Skilled costs one skill slot each, and advancing to Expert costs an additional two skill slots. | ||
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When wielding two weapons, to-hit calculations are only performed for the main-hand weapon. This means that off-hand skill is only used to determine the damage inflicted by your off-hand weapon. Raising your secondary weapon's skill to Basic gives you +2 damage for one skill slot, but spending another two slots to reach Skilled's further +1 damage is often not worthwhile. | When wielding two weapons, to-hit calculations are only performed for the main-hand weapon. This means that off-hand skill is only used to determine the damage inflicted by your off-hand weapon. Raising your secondary weapon's skill to Basic gives you +2 damage for one skill slot, but spending another two slots to reach Skilled's further +1 damage is often not worthwhile. | ||
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| + | == Strategy == | ||
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| + | As a general rule, most roles capable of two-weapon combat should switch to it eventually. Only [[Rogue]]s benefit from wielding a single one-handed weapon, and even they often prefer dual-wielding over backstab damage. Unlike two-handed weapons, a cursed off-hand weapon will slip from your hand instead of being welded to it. | ||
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| + | === Choosing a secondary weapon === | ||
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| + | When fighting with two weapons, an obvious choice for the first weapon is your favorite [[artifact weapon]]. For the second weapon, popular choices include: | ||
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| + | * [[Silver saber]], very useful for fighting demons in [[Gehennom]] | ||
| + | * [[Silver spear]], for the same reason | ||
| + | * [[Trident]], due to its high damage versus large monsters | ||
| + | * [[Crysknife]], for good damage and to-hit bonus | ||
| + | * [[Katana]], high damage, and uses the [[long sword]] skill | ||
| + | * [[Elven broadsword]], easy to find and hits small monsters hard | ||
== SLASH'EM == | == SLASH'EM == | ||
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For [[SLASH'EM]] players, the commands to activate the '''two-handed combat''' skill are '''#twoweapon''' or '''#2weapon'''. Only certain roles and certain races can fight two-handed. | For [[SLASH'EM]] players, the commands to activate the '''two-handed combat''' skill are '''#twoweapon''' or '''#2weapon'''. Only certain roles and certain races can fight two-handed. | ||
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== References == | == References == | ||
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<references/> | <references/> | ||
Revision as of 03:11, 15 August 2009
#twoweapon is an extended command used to wield two weapons simultaneously in order to perform additional damage at the cost of overall accuracy, skill points, and time spent in training the ability. Twoweaponing is not available to all roles.
Contents
Beginning two-weapon combat
To begin two-weapon combat, you must have your main-hand weapon wielded and your off-hand weapon in your secondary weapon slot. The easiest way to achieve this is usually to wield w your off-hand weapon, use x to swap your weapons, and then wield w your main-hand weapon. Finally, type [[
- twoweapon|#twoweapon]] to bring your intended off-hand weapon into your off-hand and start dual-wielding.
Restrictions and prerequisites
| Two weapon combat | |
|---|---|
| Max | Role |
| Basic | |
| Skilled | |
| Expert | |
If you are not polymorphed, your role must be one that can reach at least Basic in the two weapon combat skill. If you are polymorphed, it must be into a form that can fight with two weapons.
The two items you try to wield must both be weapons or weapon-tools, and they must both be one-handed. You cannot wield two weapons while wearing a shield.
If your secondary weapon is cursed or you have greasy hands, it will slip to the floor when you try to dual-wield. If your secondary weapon becomes cursed while you are dual-wielding it, it will slip from your hand instead of being welded to it.
If you wield an artifact weapon as a secondary weapon and attempt to #twoweapon, you will not be able to engage in two-weapon combat. A message will appear saying “Your <artifact weapon> resists being held second to another weapon!” SLASH'EM removes this restriction.
Two-weapon combat while polymorphed
You can twoweapon while polymorphed only if your polymorphed form has two weapon attacks.[1] Most monsters with this property are not valid polymorphable forms. The complete list of polymorphable monsters that can twoweapon is:
- h dwarf lord
- h dwarf king
- o orc-captain
- A Aleax
- H ettin
- @ elf-lord
- @ Elvenking
- & marilith
- & pit fiend
- & balrog
and in SLASH'EM:
- h duergar
- & bearded devil
Fighting with two weapons
| To-hit with two weapons | ||
|---|---|---|
| Skill level | One weapon | Two weapons |
| Unskilled | -4 | -9 |
| Basic | 0 | -7 |
| Skilled | +2 | -5 |
| Expert | +3 | -3 |
The skill used by twoweapon is the lesser of the twoweapon and primary weapon skills. While twoweaponing, only your twoweapon skill is trained, not the skills of your primary or secondary weapons.
If the first weapon hits, the second weapon is guaranteed to hit. The second weapon has no effect on the to-hit calculation; any skill points in the second weapon's skill or enchantment on the weapon itself contribute only to its damage.
| Damage with two weapons | ||
|---|---|---|
| Skill level | One weapon | Two weapons |
| Unskilled | -2 | -3 |
| Basic | 0 | -1 |
| Skilled | +1 | 0 |
| Expert | +2 | +1 |
Weapon damage bonuses are calculated separately for each of the two weapons. The skill that is used is the lesser of the skill in currently hitting weapon and the twoweaponing skill.[2]
Note that twoweaponing skill bonuses for both to-hit and damage differ from single-weaponing skill bonuses (See Skills for details).
Two weapon combat skill
| Two weapon combat | |
|---|---|
| Max | Role |
| Basic | |
| Skilled | |
| Expert | |
When fighting with two weapons, your effective skill level for each hand is the lesser of your two weapon combat skill and the relevant weapon skill.
The two weapon combat skill is a non-weapon skill, so advancing it to Basic and Skilled costs one skill slot each, and advancing to Expert costs an additional two skill slots.
Only roles able to reach at least Basic can engage in two weapon combat.
Skill strategy
Because to-hit and damage calculations always use the lesser of the two weapon combat skill and the appropriate weapon skill, there is no point raising your two weapon skill higher than those of the weapons you actually intend to use. In particular, Rogues should not advance to Expert if they intend to use long swords or sabers, and Tourists should consider not advancing to Skilled if they intend to use long swords.
Similarly, there is little benefit in raising your weapon skills higher than your two weapon skill if you intend to dual-wield. Knights and Valkyries can reach Expert in long swords, for example, but only Samurai can actually dual-wield them at that skill level.
When wielding two weapons, to-hit calculations are only performed for the main-hand weapon. This means that off-hand skill is only used to determine the damage inflicted by your off-hand weapon. Raising your secondary weapon's skill to Basic gives you +2 damage for one skill slot, but spending another two slots to reach Skilled's further +1 damage is often not worthwhile.
Strategy
As a general rule, most roles capable of two-weapon combat should switch to it eventually. Only Rogues benefit from wielding a single one-handed weapon, and even they often prefer dual-wielding over backstab damage. Unlike two-handed weapons, a cursed off-hand weapon will slip from your hand instead of being welded to it.
Choosing a secondary weapon
When fighting with two weapons, an obvious choice for the first weapon is your favorite artifact weapon. For the second weapon, popular choices include:
- Silver saber, very useful for fighting demons in Gehennom
- Silver spear, for the same reason
- Trident, due to its high damage versus large monsters
- Crysknife, for good damage and to-hit bonus
- Katana, high damage, and uses the long sword skill
- Elven broadsword, easy to find and hits small monsters hard
SLASH'EM
For SLASH'EM players, the commands to activate the two-handed combat skill are #twoweapon or #2weapon. Only certain roles and certain races can fight two-handed.
Of the game's many races, only humans, elves and dwarves can twoweapon. Annoyingly, other races might still see "two-handed combat" in their #enhance screen even though they cannot use it. Attempting to activate two-handed combat produces the message, "Droven Barbarians aren't able to use two weapons at once."[3]
SLASH'EM roles that can twoweapon, in addition to those in vanilla NetHack, are Flame Mage, Ice Mage, and Yeoman. All can reach Skilled proficiency.
References
- ↑ mondata.h, line 107
- ↑ weapon.c, line 1188
- ↑ src/wield.c#line506, include/mondata.h#line123, SLASH'EM 0.0.7E7F2
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