User talk:Paxed

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Re: Main page

You asked me (User talk:Kernigh#Main page) if dungeon features should be on the Main Page, as items and classes currently are.

It already links to the dungeon feature page, and that page contains the list, so I think that it works well now. However, if you want to try changing the main page, go ahead and do so - that is how wiki works. You could also join the discussion at NetHackWiki:Community Portal#New main page. --Kernigh 02:10, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Monster symbol colors

Thanks for fixing those colors... one of the downsides of updating the wiki at work is that I can't just start up a game to check the symbol colors :) Of course, the upside is that I'm not working :) --Intx13 15:23, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Moving clouds patch

Hello there. I just applied your moving clouds patch and it seems to be working the wrong way round, i.e. I see bubbles of air moving through a plane of cloud rather than "bubbles" of cloud moving through air. Is this actually the intended behaviour? --Jayt 21:42, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Source: namespace

Hey. I compiled a bot-readable list of articles to be moved into the Source: namespace (see the community portal talk), but I don't want to go doing it from work here; feeling up to it? Leave me a note if you want me to take care of it myself, but I figured you've probably already got at least the skeleton of a bot lying around somewhere.

I'll be back on IRC soonish, see you there.

--User:GreyKnight(as anon)

Bilious Tileset comparison page & scripting question

I dont see this linked in your profile, but I infer that you can maintain it one way or another... I have noticed that the 'dog eared spellbook' shows tiles for ants on everything but TTY, probably because that's the default 1st image. Also, it seems like you might have some strong perl-fu, so if you know of an easy way to annotate the ranger quest page with the associated dialogues, that would make it consistent with the others. I can copy/paste from the encyclopedia like a pro, but going through the source for all the quest chats would give me carpal tunnel. Cheers, MysterX 12:43, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Polearm Redirects

Ah, that's why. I didn't think the people here could be that stupid :P Fredil Yupigo 12:17, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Monsym - nice template, sorry for the issues!

I saw the value of Template:Monsym and saw an opportunity to update Genocide as chickatrice was hard-coded yellow instead of brown. I caused more trouble than I fixed, and I apologise for it.

I have modified the template to remove the carriage return between the end of the <noinclude>{{switch ... }}</noinclude> and the noinclude statement, so that you can use Monsym in-line with other text. It looks ugly if you edit the template, but apart from that it works brilliantly with in-line text now. -- Kalon 01:02, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

On an additional note, I have modified Template:Monsym to use direct HTML codes for ; and : monsters as the use of the single character keypress escaped the function and caused nothing to print and a carriage return to be entered, not expected actions. -- Kalon 22:14, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Leather gloves

Hmm. Yeah. It was a cleanup when I made the change. It was pretty ugly before, with the s for each class sitting *outside* the link. IE: for the word "valkyries", only "valkyrie" was linked, with the s outside the link. Super ugly.

It's weird, because even after you changed it back, the s is still included in the link. How'd you do that? 18:52, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

That's how it works. Characters connected to the link at the end are considered part of the link "name": [[foo]]bar looks like foobar and is equal to [[foo|foobar]] --paxed 19:04, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks !

Your help with the Monobook.css for Wiki 24 at the Wikia IRC was greatly appreciated! Blue Rook 20:03, 11 March 2008 (UTC)


You offer the Amulet of Yendor to NetHackWiki.
An invisible choir sings, and you are bathed in radiance.
The voice of ZeroOne booms out: "Congratulations, mortal!"
"In return to thy service, I grant thee the gift of Adminship!"
You ascend to the status of Demigod...

ZeroOne (talk / @) 20:43, 7 March 2009 (UTC)


Hey, man. As you can see, I'm Miguelius, and now I'm fully registered. I left a message earlier and you answered me. I registered just to make you happy =P I'm kinda new here, it all looks kinda weird and sometimes I'm not sure what the hell I'm doing, but I'm pretty sure that this is the right place to leave this message. About the previous one, just thought someone might find that information usefull. Thanks for your tips and I'll try to keep that in mind next time. See ya!

                                                                    --Miguelius! 19:21, 20 March 2009 (UTC)Miguelius options: separate message window

Hi Paxed,

as you co-admin NAO and there seems to be no proper forum/wiki/faq/... to discuss this kind of thing, I'm writing you here:

I would like to have a separate message window like in the OS X tiles port so I don't have to press escape after each command and risk slowly turning to stone. Can you please add an option to do this? If there already is, would you please document it?

A more verbose description of the problem is on Nao#criticisms. -Tjr 00:35, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Re: Unnecessary changes to wikilinks

Hi paxed, sorry about that, I've been using the rich text editor and been using the suggestions it gives for case. Thanks for the comment. Strongsauce1 07:02, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

Help with configuring

Hey, I'm trying to run the configure file on Mac OS X and its not working. I put it in the right folder and made sure the code was right.

I don't use a Mac, so wouldn't know. Also, please sign your edits with ~~~~. --paxed 18:26, May 23, 2010 (UTC)

Question about Dudley DIY

Hey, I just found the web comic that you wrote the generation code for, Dudley's (New, Improved) Dungeon. So as soon as I found this a read through a couple hundred, I came up with an awesome idea for one and immediately wanted to try it. However, it needs to use a non-ASCII character in the actual tty-part of the panel. I saw in the older series, the Yen symbol was used a couple times. So I was wondering if that is still possible with the version you made, and if so, what encoding is required? Does it use UTF-8 or Code Page 437? Just wanted to know before I got too far on this ASCII art.

~Grg 01:54, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

It can't do special characters, though it might be possible to add them. (I'd probably go for utf8...) --paxed 14:28, May 26, 2010 (UTC)
Hmmm... interestingly enough certain parts of it seem to work, but only half of it. Any inserting of alt codes into the edit panel immediately disappear as soon as the panel loses focus and tries to update, and then pen tool will immediately remove any alt code from the code that it touches and basically refer to it as if it was a blank square. However, inserting alt codes into the code itself results in it being parsed properly into the edit panel and preview. But the moment to try to do any editing of it through the edit panel, all alt codes are removed. So this makes me wonder if it would still work if I made it by writing the code instead of doing any editing through the edit panel. Also of note, when using alt codes through the raw code parser, the second edit panel (the one to the right with no colors or interaction with the pen tool but you can type in) always remains blank. ~Grg 18:45, May 26, 2010 (UTC)
As of right now, you can put unicode characters with setchar(x,y)xxxx. It won't render correctly in the DIY, but the way it will render correctly for what other people see.——Elronnd (talk) 05:44, 11 April 2015 (UTC)Elronnd

Re: Being a blind player...

Thanks for the welcome. No, I haven't tried NAO yet. If its implementation of NetHack doesn't use extended ASCII characters, then it's probably fairly easy to access with screen readers. As for the wiki, I find that it's fairly accessible, but I find Monobook somewhat easier to use than vector, probably because I'm more used to it ... which is one of the reasons I created an account! Graham87 16:51, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Oh there's one thing that does throw me for a loop here ... the "link" edit field (which is presumably part of the toolbar) before the main textarea when editing pages. Since I use tab to navigate between forms on a page, I sometimes get a bit confused because the main edit box isn't where I expect it to be. Graham87 17:00, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
Hmmm, the virus editor on NAO doesn't work well with JAWS (vi doesn't work too well in terminal windows with JAWS anyway, in my experience ... I would generally use Nano). I can navigate vertically but I can't navigate horizontally with the cursor ... JAWS just says "space, space space ...". This is a bit of a pain because I'm trying to change the number_pad and time options to 0. I use Tera Term because that's the most accessible Telnet client in Windows. Graham87 04:46, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
I've just successfully made the edits through the web editor. Graham87 04:58, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
Hmmm, the !time option doesn't seem to work ... I've just copied the options file from my local NetHack install and that hasn't solved the problem. I'd like the status line to change as little as possible since JAWS reads it out in full every time it's changed (as opposed to locally where it just reads the character that's changed, so if my hit points drop from 44 to 43, it will say "3"). Hope this makes sense! Graham87 06:48, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
OK, thanks. Graham87 13:21, 7 March 2011 (UTC)


I appreciate your quick response to my request for help. TheTrueMikeBrown 18:45, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Welcome Bot first message doesn't seem to be rendering correctly

Just created an account, and so got a message from the welcome bot. The first line is a greeting, but where I would expect to see my handle I see triple-nested curlys wrapping a 1. Perhaps moving to media wiki 1.19.0 futzed it?

Fixed. It was caused by updating mw:Extension:NewUserMessage. --paxed (talk) 05:55, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Some pages are missing the line under the article title

I am using Firefox 12 on Ubuntu, and articles under certain namespaces do not have the line under the article title. I noticed it on Forum:Watercooler and all the other forum posts. It also affects user talk pages like yours at User_talk:Paxed and when editing those pages. -- 23:56, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

I think I just fixed it. For whatever reason, the #bodyContent div in Vector overlaps the heading by a few pixels, so setting its background to something non-transparent makes the bottom border of the heading disappear. I couldn't see any bad side-effects to that change, either, although if so, I wonder why that rule was added in the first place. --Ilmari Karonen (talk) 16:33, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Version tags are positioned improperly

The version tags that appear at the top right of some pages are overlapping the header. You can see examples at Special room (SLASH'EM) and Junethack. I recall that the tags are 3.4.3, SE 7E7, VAR 3.4.3, and the featured article star. -- 02:15, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Those should now be fixed. --paxed (talk) 14:06, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Re: ] NAO and screen reader

Thanks very much! I haven't played NetHack at all for ages ... I've been too busy! Graham87 (talk) 07:08, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

I can't seem to be able to log in to the website at all; I even tried resetting my password, but when I type in my credentials it takes me back to the login screen without an error message. I use IE8 if that matters (as Firefox and JAWS don't get along well). Graham87 (talk) 07:15, 13 May 2012 (UTC)


I just made Forum:Well_done_everyone to congratulate everybody, the wiki is looking fantastic these days. Good work running the place too! :-) --TPGreyKnight (talk) 22:42, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

User:Paxed/unnethack des

Thanks for this article, it is really useful for me! Bulwersator (talk) 16:20, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Alternate tilesets template

Conversation moved to Template_talk:Alternate_tilesets

My Wikia password doesn't work

and it says no email address is registered under my account, Alysdexia. 22:23, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Is the SpamBlacklist extension active?

Some knucklehead has put up at least a half dozen spams for some site, [removed to avoid the blacklist]. I tried adding that site to the spam blacklist, but edits to the sandbox still went through.

Is the spam blacklist extension active? Would you consider activating it if it isn't?--Ray Chason (talk) 01:26, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Just tested in the sandbox. The blacklist seems to be working.--Ray Chason (talk) 08:40, 9 March 2014 (UTC)


Well kind of :D . I feel a line about real life is appropriate. To feel like an animal and not just like a blue "f" chasing after you. For "role playing", or "immersion". It's not about actually explaining biology.

I shorten it in to "A family of short tailed, medium-sized felines spread all over the northern hemisphere."--Quantum Immortal (talk) 09:39, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

time out problem with editing

I'm trying to edit sokoban and Sokoban_(SLASH'EM) for almost a week. I just want to add the div tag on the maps, i don't know about others, but i see white lines with out them. The list of maps is too large, and when i try to save, it keeps timing out with out saving >:P . I also messed up Sokoban_(SLASH'EM) a bit because of this. --Quantum Immortal (talk) 02:24, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Article for naohack

Does anyone (you) feel like writing an article for the NAO version of nethack? It seems needed.--Elronnd (talk) 05:32, 3 April 2015 (UTC)Elronnd

openZIM/kiwix file for offline NetHackWiki

Is it possible to provide an openZIM/kiwix formatted copy of NetHackWiki in addition to the XML dump? It would eliminate the headache of installing LAMP and mediawiki. --Deadagain (talk) 06:04, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

torrent for dumps

Dear admin. What about having a new torrent of the dumps generated each weak?--Quantum Immortal (talk) 07:48, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

sloppy Image dump???

The image dump is 140MB, while the thumb folder inside is 120. Is this some error??? Also, i think that the thumb folder is not necessary since you build your own thumbs... And the deleted images are also there...--Quantum Immortal (talk) 10:41, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Regarding the proper formatting of source pages

Hello, Paxed.

Just now I stumbled upon a source page which seems to lack line numbers. Would it be within the reach of your magicks to supply these?
The same is true of onames.h, pm.h, vis_tab.h and vis_tab.c (long form); I believe the two latter are supposed to have numbers.__Train (talk) 10:38, 20 July 2015 (UTC)


I am contacting you specifically about this because I don't know any other user I can turn to. I am exhausted after a very unsatisfactory experience in #nethackwiki attempting to address an ongoing situation. I appreciate (and communicated my understanding) that some or all the users I interacted with were not wiki staff, that they were not obligated to assist me, and that as this wiki sees comparatively little traffic and concerns something of an arcane subject, it would be unreasonable of me to expect an immediate or even prompt response. Ultimately, I'm to understand that one (or more) of the channel operators admitted to trolling me and set +q on me in order to have the last word. My appreciation of their attitude is that they weren't willing to follow me as I explained the history and scope of the problem, that they subsequently weren't to be faulted when they suggested a solution that I'd either already tried or that they themselves didn't even believe would work to adequately resolve the issue; and finally, when I explained that my interactions with them didn't leave me feeling satisfied that my concerns would be addressed, their response was that it wasn't their problem.

The issue I have recognized, and tried to bring to the attention of NethackWiki staff, is the editing history of user Quantum Immortal. On sporadic occasions in the past month or two, I would occasionally find inclusions in articles that were either tangentially related to the article subject or had extraneous details that were irrelevant to the game, and in any case these inclusions had multiple grammatical and spelling errors. When I saw them, I'd either rewrite the section or correct the mistakes, as is evident from my user contributions; an example specific to this issue is , wherein I found a section titled "Alternative Strategies" on the Castle article that I felt wasn't necessary, to say nothing of grammatical and stylistic errors, and so removed it.

At the time of that edit, I had not yet established any connection between these suspect edits and Quantum Immortal, much less any single user at all. My contribs indicate that my first direct encounter with Quantum Immortal occurred here: ; I had on that occasion, as I had many others, found an entry which I felt wasn't "up to snuff," and so rewrote the section. I discovered later that one sentence I'd removed in the course of my rewrite had been restored by another user - this sentence had grammatical and spelling errors, and concerned the appearance of Dispater, which I felt was not relevant to the game. I reverted this restoration:

Now, as the users on #nethackwiki were very quick to inform me, that incident is very likely to blame for any forthcoming adversity between Quantum Immortal and myself; in retrospect, I readily recognize how my line in the edit summary, "the sentence you restored was not in english, it was in ape, which is why i rewrote the section in the first place," could easily be construed as a hostile personal attack - especially to a user who might have some sensitivity about their English language ability. I wrote that line because I am an interminably grumpy curmudgeon who shakes his fist at meddling kids who embarrass themselves by writing like illiterates, and I am very much prepared to offer an apology for that snipe, both because it may have ended up catalyzing a problem and because it was plainly not necessary to the operation of a wiki.

My next encounter with Quantum Immortal occurred when I found that a pronunciation guide on the Houchou article suggested "hoo-choo," which is glaringly incorrect: . I was surprised to find that my correction was reverted shortly thereafter, by the very same Quantum Immortal I'd encountered earlier; I was surprised again, and this time alarmed and insulted, both that the erroneous pronunciation was restored, and that the user appeared to be convinced that his "hoo-choo" error was in fact how the word was pronounced. In justifying this, the user invoked "standard romanization rules for Japanese," something which exists only in that user's imagination: . I couldn't believe this absurdity, and so I began to dig around this user's contributions, making the connection for the first time between Quantum Immortal and these subpar edits I'd happened to have encountered.

What followed was a back-and-forth revert cycle. I removed the erroneous content because it was erroneous, and explained in my edit summaries that there was no such thing as a "standard romanization rule." Evidently, what Quantum Immortal took away from this is that I had an issue with the phrase "standard romanization rule," and that what needed to be done to appease me is to "compromise" by changing the phrase to "most frequent romanization rule," another figment of that user's imagination.

At this point, I realized that an edit war was likely to ensue, and so I took to Quantum Immortal's talk page to address the issue. I saw another section on his talk page from January of this year, discussing an extraneous edit to the lynx article: . You yourself gave this warning. This indicated to me that there had been at least one incident in the past where measures were taken to curtail edits of that nature, and that, seeing as how the behavior persists to the present day, these measures were evidently inadequate.

From my brief conversations with Quantum Immortal on their talk page, , my impressions are that the user does not recognize their English language deficiencies as being problematic; that other users are being impolite by pointing out that these deficiencies are the cause of a chronic history of questionable edits, including introducing errors to otherwise perfectly acceptable English; that something called a "romanization rule" definitely, definitely exists, and that it says "hoo-choo" is correct; and, pursuant to all the above, there will be no change to the user's editing behavior going forward.

Recognizing the potential for this to escalate, I have not addressed several outstanding errors in pages Quantum Immortal has edited since our conversation. I would very much like to, as they are errors and do need to be amended, but I do not believe I can address them until there has been some involvement by a mediator. I recognize that Quantum Immortal's edits are certainly in good faith, and that the user believes they are contributing positively to the wiki, but that there are problems stemming from an impairment that are causing this desire to be helpful to manifest in unintended, undesirable ways.-- 16:13, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

How to report vandalism?

I can't figure out how to report vandalism and harassment on here. IP has followed me here from Wikipediaand other networks with vandalism, deadnaming, and personal attacks. See most recent edit. Funcrunch (talk) 14:36, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for blocking IP But IP (the vandal's earlier address) still has an active account. (As does, as you saw...) Funcrunch (talk) 20:34, 21 May 2016 (UTC) Is it possible to get my user and talk page protected from anonymous editing? Funcrunch (talk) 21:08, 21 May 2016 (UTC)